Snape's DE past
potioncat
willsonkmom at msn.com
Tue Aug 31 11:48:50 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 111697
Kneasy wrote:
> Perhaps he's confusing him with someone else entirely - Voldemort.
> There is canon evidence that Harry has been on the receiving end of
> Voldy's powers and there is heavy speculation that there may be
> even more to it than that. As an ex-DE who shows extreme reactions
> to just the mention of Voldy's name Snape would be hyper-sensitive
> to any Voldy connection. As an Occlumens/Legilimens perhaps Snape
> sees more of Harry's mind than we give him credit for.
Potioncat:
I think you may be on to something. In GoF Pensieve scene, DD sees
a connection between Harry's scar hurting and Snape's Dark Mark
burning. There's been a discussion wheter the word burning
indicated an actual sensation. I'm going to presume it does. And
while I'm not sure there is canon for it, I wonder if Snape gets
more of a jolt when Harry is around. Imagine Snape's reaction if
Harry was something of an antena or amplifier for LV's
energy/awarness/power. Something along the line of Harry's reaction
in SS/PS when LV was near. Or along the line of Snape's mark
hurting in GoF near Moody.
Kneasy:
>
> An email from Lyn Mangiameli reminded me that it was Snape who
> almost certainly got Malfoy to provoke Harry into revealing that
> he's a Parselmouth - a Salazar/Voldy/Tom Riddle attribute. What
> else has Snape seen in Harry's head?
snip
>
>> They ignore the fact that he could turn into something much, much
> worse. He could be Voldy Mk II. Doesn't the Prophecy say "..his
equal.."? Nothing in there about being his opposite, or is my copy
of OoP faulty?
Potioncat:
So now we have Snape not wanting Harry to be another James or Tom in
behavior. Or maybe James is a red herring. It's Tom. What else does
Snape see? A tendency, a latent skill? A shadow of Tom/LV? Not
only does he have bits of LV, but his own natural tendencies are
similar. I'm sure Harry's disreguard for the rules came from James.
Kneasy:
>snip
> Harry has not yet proved that he is 'good'.
snip
> > Harry is in the 'good' corner by default - he's had little or no
choice in the matter. Maybe Snape can see what Harry could turn into
if he did have a free choice and that is what he's reacting to.
>
Potioncat:
Some of the decisions Harry has made have had nothing to do with
being good, but they look like "good" decisions. The big one that
comes to mind is "not Slytherin." I still think that the main
reason for that was that he didn't want Malfoy for a dorm mate.
Heck, Nott and Zabini probably aren't too thrilled either.
But I disagree. Harry has shown goodness...preventing Black and
Lupin from killing Pettigrew is the big one. Who really would have
thought ill of any of them if Pettigrew had died? On the other
hand, he did give in to the temptation of using the Cruiatus Curse.
So I would argue against your comment of his not yet
demonstrating "good." But I would agree that the potential for
something else is still there. Particulary since JKR characters have
very deep shades of gray. And Snape is very familiar with gray.
Potioncat
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