Harry's Protection (was Re: Questions)
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 2 00:51:59 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119013
Kneasy:
> It'd be a bit of an anticlimax if Harry was proofed against
absolutely every kind of spell, assault and accident. Where's the
tension in an impervious hero? Even Superman had his Achilles heel.
>
> I posted (a few months back) that the 'Ancient Magic' that protects
> Harry is only effective against Voldemort
Valky:
Yes I agree with you Kneasy, I believe the blood protection and the
surge that repelled Vernon Dursley are not the same power. The
former being the force that caused Quirrelmorts *hands to burn* and
the latter, perhaps a completely different power that the Dark Lord
knows *not*.
Kneasy:
> and even then it was Voldy's *person* but not his spells. I
> wouldn't be surprised if the 'blood protection' is/was not as
comprehensive as some would think or wish.
>
Valky:
Which is kind of where I am going with this investigation.
In the Man with Two Faces PS Quirrel says about his attempt to on
Harry's life.
" 'Master I cannot *hold* him - my hands - my hands'"
Harry asks DD later, " ' But why couldn't Quirrel *touch* me?' "
To which DD replies " '....It is in your very skin......It was agony
to *touch* a person marked by something so good."
[Emphasis on hold and touch is my own]
But note that Quirrel said that he could not *hold* Harry as well.
Now it can easily be translated that the burning sensation from the
touch was what made Harry *impossible to hold*, that is until OOtP
when we discover Harry in the *exact* same situation with Vernon
Dursley, then it becomes more difficult to dismiss it that way.
Kneasy:
> Wandless magic seemed to protect him when he was at his previous
> school and I'm willing to accept that it was the same automatic
magic that kept him out of Vernon's grasping fists. At a rough guess
I'd be willing to bet that 'wandless magic' is a wizard's (or wizard
child's) protection against unwelcome Muggle attentions or possible
damage from non-magical events, such as Neville being dropped out of
a window. Certainly I can't ever remember it being reported as
functioning reliably against magic or other wizards.
>
Valky:
It could well be all this that you say here Kneasy, but thats not
very exciting. ;D
Kneasy:
> Now if these other types of magic (Ancient, wandless) provide a
> measure of protection against *specific* types of threat against
Harry, then the next question is - "What does blood protection guard
him against?" closely followed by another question - "If it
protects Harry, why is DD seemingly so pleased that Voldy has
Harry's blood in him?"
>
Valky:
Yes, here is the crux of my investigation. We are given the prophecy
in OOtP and we are told that Harry has a power that the Dark Lord
does *not* know of. I expect quite some foreshadowing of this power
in action has also been given to us through the course of the series.
I am looking in only four passages and so far it is adding up.
As was quoted for me by Geoff Bannister in an earlier post, so far
all that has been thoroughly discussed by DD, Voldemort and Harry is
the *touch* of his skin bearing the protection of his mothers love.
There are two other mysteries about Harry's protection, one is the
protection of the Durselys home, and the other is the *impossible to
hold by the throat (strangle)* Harry. IMO JKR has given us almost
all that she will ever give about the home, I am sure that most will
agree that it seems that protection is wearing at the edges now and
will soon be a moot point because it will be gone. However, the
impossible to hold Harry is quite a new emergence in the series, and
Voldemort seems to know nothing about it.
Kneasy;
> Back to the old "Dumbledore's gleam".
> IIRC no-one ever has explained that satisfactorily.
> And I'm not even going to try.
>
Valky:
Well I am. :D This is why I asked for the quote.
Harry says "....he was right.... it worked.... he *touched* my face"
And Dumbledore gets a curious gleam of triumph in his eyes.
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