Detached?Lupin
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Thu Dec 2 23:07:12 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119106
> Pippin:
> Once JKR has established a character's pattern of speech, does
> she have to keep repeating herself? Or can she do what
> English-speaking writers are encouraged to do, and keep the
> adverb tags to a minimum when constructing dialogue?
>
> What tone of voice do you impute to "I need scarcely say that I
> failed dismally." ? (OOP ch 9)
Jen: We have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that JKR loves
adverbs, and generally uses them with great abandon. I see no reason
why she would scrimp on Lupin. And as for the quote above, Lupin
also frequently uses sarcasm to make his point (especially when he's
wryly musing about his own actions). That's a commonly accepted way,
and one JKR uses on herself, to point out personal failings without
drenching ourselves in self-condemnation or everyone else in
obsequiousness,i.e. Peter's hem-kissing-knee-walking apologies to
Sirius & Lupin.
Pippin:
> Lupin failed as a prefect and he treats that very lightly. That
he
> knows he shouldn't is brought up in chapter 29, when Lupin
> explains, in inverted order, that he should have told Sirius and
> James that they were out of order and should lay off Snape, but
> he didn't, because everyone thought that being arrogant berks
> was the height of cool.
Jen: I hope 20 years after the fact Lupin isn't flagellating himself
for mistakes he made at Hogwarts as a prefect! That would be pretty
sad if he can't let himself off the hook for being a bad role-model
and leader when he's almost middle-aged now. Alot of time and
circumstances have gone under the bridge since that one year of his
life.
Pippin:
> Lupin comforts other characters when it won't cost him anything
> to do so... but he detaches from people and creatures all too
> easily. Look at the way he disposes of the dark creatures he
> cared for in PoA, compared to the way everyone else feels about
> losing their pets in that book.
Jen: Disposed of dark creatures? I know you will have canon for this
Pippin. In my mind when I read POA, I immediately assumed the dark
creatures were released into the Forbidden Forest or given to Hagrid
to find good homes ;). Now, I have no canon for that, just pointing
out where my imagination took me based on my perception of the
character.
Pippin:
> Of course Lupin isn't wholly evil, nobody is. Evil in the
Potterverse
> is a *social* problem. You can't pin it down to one person. The
> Death Eaters as individuals aren't altogether evil, even
> Voldemort is not, but the Death Eaters as a group definitely are.
> And Lupin is one of them, or I'm a hobbit.
Jen: JKR seems to view evil as a choice problem more than anything.
A concious choice to pursue a worldview, a community and a doctrine
that gives rise to oppression, prejudice, and corrupt or extremist
activities. So far Lupin has not been indicted as one of these
people. We have no evidence Lupin has engaged in pure-blood
ideaology, Muggle torture, employment within a corrupt government,
or affiliation with people engaging in nefarious activities.
Jen Reese
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