Detached?Lupin
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Dec 3 15:59:48 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119150
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese"
<stevejjen at e...> wrote:
>
> > Pippin:
> > Once JKR has established a character's pattern of speech,
does she have to keep repeating herself? Or can she do what
English-speaking writers are encouraged to do, and keep the
adverb tags to a minimum when constructing dialogue?
> >
> > What tone of voice do you impute to "I need scarcely say that
I failed dismally." ? (OOP ch 9)
>
> Jen: We have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that JKR loves
> adverbs, and generally uses them with great abandon. I see
no reason why she would scrimp on Lupin.<
Pippin:
But she *does* scrimp on Lupin. We're very often left to guess, or
at least that is my impression. LOONS?
>
> Pippin:
> > Lupin comforts other characters when it won't cost him
anything to do so... but he detaches from people and creatures
all too easily. Look at the way he disposes of the dark creatures
he cared for in PoA, compared to the way everyone else feels
about losing their pets in that book.
>
> Jen: Disposed of dark creatures? I know you will have canon
for this Pippin. <
Pippin:
"Forward Neville, and finish him off!" PoA ch 7. What happened to
the others, we don't know, but the one we do know about was
destroyed.
Jen:
In my mind when I read POA, I immediately assumed the dark
creatures were released into the Forbidden Forest or given to
Hagrid to find good homes ;). Now, I have no canon for that, just
pointing out where my imagination took me based on my
perception of the character.
Pippin:
Unfortunately my imagination, based on my perception of the
character, leads me to quite a different place. I have the same
problem with him comforting the werewolf in OOP.
I want to know if Lupin had an alibi for the night the poor fellow
was bitten, and while my imagination happily conjures Moony
and Padfoot in a dozy heap by the fireside, the canon insists on
showing me Sirius, two weeks past full moon, unkempt, boozy,
up late with his guttering candle after a solitary supper and every
inch the jilted spouse.
> Jen: JKR seems to view evil as a choice problem more than
anything. A concious choice to pursue a worldview, a community
and a doctrine that gives rise to oppression, prejudice, and
corrupt or extremist activities. So far Lupin has not been indicted
as one of these people.<
We have no evidence Lupin has engaged in pure-blood
ideaology, Muggle torture, employment within a corrupt
government, or affiliation with people engaging in nefarious
activities<
Pippin:
We don't?
Trying to kill Peter was extremist activity, at least Harry thought
so.
Failing to inform on Sirius was abetting someone whom he
believed had engaged in pure blood ideology, Muggle torture
and affiliation with people engaging in nefarious activities.
Lupin's job was more important to him than Harry's skin, and if
that wasn't choosing power over love, what is?
Lupin didn't have paranoid, sadistic reasons for those choices,
but my point is, he didn't have to. Selfishness and detachment
were enough.
Pippin
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