The Demise of Lord Thingy--betrayed by a kiss (long)

imamommy at sbcglobal.net imamommy at sbcglobal.net
Sat Dec 4 05:47:39 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 119223


imamommy:

There are several theories that have been rolling about in my brain, 
half-formed, for the last couple of weeks.  I've been doing a lot of 
reading of the books, the wise opinions in this group, and articles 
by people who think about HP even more than I do, and I've pulled 
together a few half-baked ideas which I would like to turn over to 
some of the more clever minds here.  Do with them what you will.

Firstly, let me say that I don't think Harry's body has LV's soul in 
it.  I've read several articles expressing this opinion, and I 
disagree with them, and most particularly with the idea that Voldy is 
in Harry's body, with Harry floating around somewhere.  This is only 
based on my personal belief about the nature of a soul:  I believe it 
to be the part of us that animates our shell, that we use to make 
decisions, and that essentially makes us who we are.  Therefore, 
using my definition, Harry cannot be Voldy!Harry because he would 
know he was Voldy, and would make decisions accordingly.  

Also, Voldy is Voldy, and it seems to me that perhaps the only thing 
he had going for him after the failed AK *was* his soul.  The 
tenacity with which he clung to mortal life, not even settling for 
the ghost plane, proves this to me.  

Another point:  if Voldy!Harry were correct, then how can LV possess 
Harry at the end of OOP?  If it causes that much pain to Harry to 
have Voldemort contaminate him, and hurt him in that way, how could 
he be more than just Harry?

All that said, if there is anyone in these books I suspect having a 
soul other than his or her own, it would be Neville.  Someone else's 
soul, and that soul was memory-charmed.  

Side note:  Why did the DE's go after the Longbottoms, anyway?  
Something about torturing them for information about the Dark Lord's 
whereabouts?  But how did they know 1) if LV had any whereabouts, and 
2) that the Longbottoms would know anything about it if he did?  

Then I got to thinking about those soul-sucking dementors.  "A fate 
worse than death," right?  And isn't that pretty much what DD 
promised his former student?  So, if Harry could get a Dementor to 
get smoochy with Voldy, he'd be all set, right?  

OK, you say, but then Voldemort might technically be surviving.  Well 
maybe, but what do they do with people who receive a DK?  Once the 
soul's gone, that pretty much takes away any will to live, eat, 
breathe, etc (assuming "soul" means what I think it does).  And it 
wouldn't be very difficult to find some creature or person willing to 
destroy his body, once the soul is taken care of.

Another side note:  what *does* happen to those who've been DK'd?  
Where do they go?  DO they die soon?

Well, Dementors do serve LV, and he still likely commands his 
respect, unless... you trick him into possesing you, have a dementor 
handy to suck out his soul (but you get to keep yours) and are able 
to dispose of him that way, which is what I predict.

I propose the theory that somehow Harry *will* get Voldy's soul in 
him, have it sucked out, and will become the only person to survive 
the Dementor's Kiss.

After all, JKR did say Harry would be getting kissed again, but she 
wouldn't say by who!

imamommy










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