Snape and Lupin's Character Arcs (was: Lupin's Char Arc)

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No: HPFGUIDX 119393


> Alla:
> > Oh, I most certainly and emphatically disagree with that one.  
>  McGonagall would certainly correct such a student, granted, but 
> not  in the unprofessional and demeaning way used by Snape.< 
> 
> Pippin:
> Oh, I think you are idealizing McGonagall a bit. JKR called her a 
> scary teacher. Here's an example:
> 
> "HARRY POTTER!"
> His heart sank fast than he'd just dived. Professor McGonagall 
> was running towards them. He got to his feet, trembling.
> 
> "*Never* --in all my time at Hogwarts--"
> Professor McGonagall was almost speechless with shock, and 
> her glasses flashed furiously, "--how *dare* you--might have 
> broken your neck--"-- PS/SS ch9
Do you think McGonagall was faking her anger? In any case, 
was it professional for her to scold Harry  in front of the 
Slytherins. Wasn't he horribly humiliated thinking he was going 
to be punished,  and was it fair to let him off only because the 
Gryffindor team needed a Seeker? 


Alla:

OK, first of all the quote you cited was Lupinlore's not mine, but 
since I basically said same thing, just in different words.

NO, I don't think I idealise McGonagall at all. She can be very 
tough, but thanks G-d, she is no Snapelike teacher, IMO.

What you cited was her concern for Harry' safety. I see no 
humiliation there whatsoever.


> 
Alla:
Also, Harry  did not ask to be singled out by Snape in class and 
ridiculed for not  knowing something he could not possibly have 
known.  <
> 
Pippin:
If Harry couldn't possibly have known it, how come Hermione 
did? Harry's humiliation came from thinking that other people did 
know it, Hermione and Draco in particular. It shouldn't be 
ego-bruising to think that some people in the class know more 
than you do...why get upset about it? Unless you have a swollen 
head, of course <g>.


Alla:

The previous quote was again Lupinlore's not mine, but since I 
absolutely agree with it, I guess I don't mind again.

How come Hermione did? because Hermione is Hermione, enough said. She 
usually knows things nobody else does.

Harry's humiliation came from Snape's claiming that he is a celebrity 
and directing class attention to him. There were no assignments given 
yet as we earlier discussed, or at least I am of that opinion, so the 
fact that Hermione read all the books does not give Snape the right 
to ask those questions on the first lesson, IMO.
 

Pippin:
 
I don't recall that Snape has ever said anything about Harry's 
father in relation to a potions class -- the subject only comes up 
in relation to rule-breaking.  Harry's father was known for that, 
and Snape had a duty to point out that he shouldn't be admired 
for it.


Alla:
I am sorry? I think the saying " about dead people we speak either 
good things or nothing" exists for a reason. Harry has a right to 
admire his dead father for whatever he wants, IMO. Snape has no right 
or duty to say such things to Harry,especially when they are in 
student-teacher relationship, IMO.