Snape and Lupin's Character Arcs (was: Lupin's Char Arc)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Dec 6 21:51:18 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119398
> Alla:
>
> OK, first of all the quote you cited was Lupinlore's not mine, but
> since I basically said same thing, just in different words.
>
> NO, I don't think I idealise McGonagall at all. She can be very
> tough, but thanks G-d, she is no Snapelike teacher, IMO.
>
> What you cited was her concern for Harry' safety. I see no
> humiliation there whatsoever.
>
Pippin:
Oops! Sorry for the misattribution. I can make the same concern
for safety argument for Snape. Harry is going to be attacked by
adult dark wizards. They have no intention of waiting till he grows
up. They are not going to fight fair. They are going to use every
means in their power to defeat him, including unfair
punishments and insulting his family.
They would think it very clever to incite Harry to attack them or use
illegal magic so they can have him expelled, executed or sent to
St. Mungo's or Azkaban, all perfectly legal. If Harry can learn to
deal with insults without retaliating, his survival prospects are
going to go way up. The Dursleys weren't good practice for that--
it seems they were usually too dense to notice when Harry got
back at them.
> Pippin:
>
> I don't recall that Snape has ever said anything about Harry's
father in relation to a potions class -- the subject only comes up
in relation to rule-breaking. Harry's father was known for that,
and Snape had a duty to point out that he shouldn't be admired
for it.<
>
>
> Alla:
> I am sorry? I think the saying " about dead people we speak
either good things or nothing" exists for a reason. Harry has a
right to admire his dead father for whatever he wants, IMO.
Snape has no right or duty to say such things to Harry,especially
when they are in student-teacher relationship, IMO.<
Pippin:
I can't say I agree with that saying, not when the dead person is a
historical figure, anyway. That kind of thinking leads to the lie of
the golden fountain -- all the wizards of the past were wonderful
people, so the civilization we inherited from them must be
wonderful too. Bleh!
Pippin
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