CHAPTER DISCUSSION: Chapter 33 - Fight and Flight

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> 1. Harry "had the feeling he had had before in the forest, one of
being watched by unseen eyes."(p. 664, Bloomsbury edition) We may
presume this refers in part to the centaurs and forest creatures; are
there other eyes watching him?
 
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Of course there are! Eyes that belong to demiguises (that ARE
invisible) , golden snidgets, invisible wizards/witches (Dumbledore?)
and only JKR knows what else.
 
> 2. Umbridge's months of arrogance and abuse of power finally meet
their match with the Centaurs.  How satisfied are we with this outcome?
 
I loved it - particularly when she's in the hospital later and Ron
plays with his tongue....  It's hilarious, and well - to be defeated
by Centaurs, classified as 'beasts' by the Ministry - well...
 
> 3. Hermione's remarks to the centaurs nearly spell doom for her and
Harry.  What does this say about her understanding of them?
 
She didn't *listen* to them. She certainly has lack in people-skills
(even if she isn't the know-it-all anymore), particularly when dealing
with non-humans. Harry deals much better with them... I dunno, maybe
Hermione would have done better to express gratitude, say that
Umbridge made them to, or whatever (child-like behaviour). When she
and Harry were with Hagrid - they let him go for the sake of the
'foals' - but now, attacking Umbridge... they obviously don't consider
Hermione/Harry as foals anymore.
 
> 4.  Grawp appears to remember Hermione, and he reaches for her.  How
dangerous is he at this point?
 
Well... Grawp was saving their lives. Still, the giant was obviously
quite dangerous to the Centaurs, was he not?  
 
> 5. Harry and Ron try to discourage Ginny, Luna and Neville from
joining them to help Sirius in London.  Harry thinks, "...if he could
have chosen any member of the DA
 to join him in the attempt to rescue
Sirius, he would not have picked Ginny, Neville or Luna." (p. 671) 
Why are they so opposed to these specific people?

Harry wouldn't have wanted *any* company, as it would risk their
lives. Still, he *has* seen Ron and Hermione to join him in dangerous
tasks since their first year, and he knows that he can't stop
Hermione&Ron - and those two best friends CAN fight, they don't panic
in danger.

> 6.  In the forest, Harry appears to vent his fury at Hermione as an
outlet for his fear and anger at himself.  Is this a pattern?

Well, Harry needs to vent himself out *somehow*, does he not? Hermione
just happens to be there for it.
 
> 7. Umbridge says to Harry: "The Ministry places a rather higher
value on my life than yours, 
> 
> I'm afraid." (P. 663)  Is this true in fact or just in Umbridge's
own mind?  How do her dealings
> 
>  with the centaurs reflect upon Umbridge's self-supposed importance?

In Umbridge's and Fudge's mind it is true, and her self-importance
sure only angered the Centaurs even more.

>  8. When Harry says, "Look, you three –" he pointed at Neville,
Ginny, and Luna, "you're not involved in this, you're not --" (p. 672)
which molly-coddling member of the Order does Harry seem to be channeling?

Molly, of course ... trying to keep Harry & her kids from dealings of
the Order, the Triwizards... but I suppose it's just Harry's fear for
their lives. (much like it is Molly's, remember her boggart)

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