Angry Harry in HBP?

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Thu Dec 9 04:49:37 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 119555


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> 
> Laurasia wrote:
> An article in today's paper (Sydney Morning Herald, Dec 9 2004: 
> http://smh.com.au/articles/2004/12/08/1102182348990.html ) had a 
few 
> comments from Fiona Boyle (author  of "A Muggle's Guide to Harry 
> Potter")  in which she says she expects Harry to continue throwing 
> temper tantrums in the next books. Whilst I don't think Harry will 
> give up his angst that easily, I think it would be thematically 
> better (and more representative of real-life coping) for Harry to 
> act down, depressed and hopeless, not still angry.
>> snip
> I think the determination to fight Voldemort to the death and to 
> accept his place in the prophecy should come only after Harry has 
> surrendered to it all. I think for Harry to give up his strong 
> Gryffindor traits of bravery and courage for a period of time will 
> make his final battle with Voldemort much more powerful. He isn't 
> brave and courageous because he has some innate inborn quality- he 
> > has to *choose* to use it.
>  
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Very interesting post. Even though I don't want Harry to become pre-
> OOP Harry, I am with you here - I don't think we 'll see always 
> angry Harry in HBP.
> 
> Yes, I think we'll see depressed and grieving Harry, but again  
> this "he will have to master his emotions in order to be useful" 
> quote 
> makes me wonder how long this stage will last.
> 
> Unfortunately I don't think that Jo will allow Harry to doubt his 
> destiny for a long time. I will be glad if it will last a couple of 
> chapters.
> 
> Like maybe he will decide to give up one thing - Quidditch for 
> example and then some kind of disaster strikes and Harry is back to 
> the rescue.  Too bad though, I would love him to doubt his destiny.
> 
> But I am telling you - I like your interpretation MUCH better than 
> mine prediction and I will be incredibly happy if yours will be 
> correct.
> 
> Yes, Harry has to choose his courage and I agree - to win over 
> Voldemort Harry has to stop being afraid of death (maybe he WILL 
> travel to underworld after all). I think not being afraid of death 
> will help him survive at the end.
> 
> It will be fun, if Harry lets Snape insults go unanswered for a 
> while, but then finally explodes.
> 
> In any event, I don't believe that JKR will take it as far as 
> turning Harry in Malfoy's clone. She is too adamant in drawing 
> distinction between them . :o)

imamommy:

I would expect the boy to display the classic five steps of grief:  
shock, denial, anger/bargaining, depression, and acceptance.  These 
are the five steps people go through when something else traumatic 
happens to them.  Each of these steps is essential to mental health 
for the individual.  

So, at the end of OoP, we definitely see Harry in shock.  We will 
probably see him either in the denial or anger/bargaining phase at 
the beginning of HBP, and over the course of the sixth and seventh 
book, see him progress throughdepression to eventual acceptance.

I hope we get to see him in denial for a while before anger, so there 
is a contrast with his mood for much of OoP.  I also agree that he 
needs to go through a depressed, "I don't give a flying ferret" 
time.  Lots of teenagers with less baggage than Harry's got go 
through this.  

Often this kind of depression causes a falling out with old friends, 
and hanging around new friends who tend to have a demoralizing effect 
on the teenager.  I don't see Harry chumming up to Draco & Co., but 
is there anyone else he could escape to as a departure from Ron and 
Hermione?  Theodore Nott, perhaps?

I think he will withdraw from Hermione especially for a time.  She 
tends to be his voice of reason and conscience, and I think he will 
want to escape that voice for awhile.  

imamommy







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