Guarding the Stone

[Tammy]

No: HPFGUIDX 119666



> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tammy" <elsyee_h at y...> wrote:
> > 
> > I merely have one issue (other than the one pippin brought up about
> > Hermione and Ron meeting Dumbledore in the entry hall).... As
> > Voldemort is a very powerful wizard even while he's in someone else's
> > body, shouldn't he have realized that Dumbledore is present? True,
> > Dumbledore could be more powerful in that he could fully cover his
> > presence, but I still can't help but feel that Voldemort would be able
> > to sense Dumbledore in the room.
> > 
> 
> Without distractions, then he probably could, though it's worth
> remembering that he doesn't sense Frank  Bryce listening at the door
> at the beginning of GoF - Nagini tells him; chances either way, I think.
> (This is mostly theoretical, you understand; I've already responded to
> Pippin admitting that it's not really likely that he was present....
though
> it's such a seductive idea it's difficult to discard.)
> 
> But anyway, distractions there were. Plus he's stuffed inside a turban.
> He's after the Stone. Where is it? Nothing there except this Mirror
thingy
> that shows the Stone but not where it is. Puzzle, ponder, think.
> Then that unmitigated pest Potter turns up. Really! The chances of a
> seriously evil villain having 5 minutes peace and quiet are absolutely
> shocking.

Tammy replies:

Poor guy, true enough, I'd forgotten about old Frank. And if Voldemort
can be distracted enough at his own home (in a manner of speaking) to
not notice a muggle immediately, then he could definitely be
distracted enough to not notice a powerful wizard like Dumbledore.

I agree, there are problems with the theory, but I too like the idea.
Then again, I like anything that displays Dumbledore as something
other than the kindly old guy he is (recently got into a heated
argument with someone because I merely pointed out that at the very
least some of Dumbledore's actions can be taken as manipulative).

> Kneasy wrote:

> What I'd really like to know....
> DD arrives in time to pull Quirrell off Harry.
> Harry remembers this - the voice, Quirrell's arms being wrenched from
> his grasp.
> Was Voldy still there?
> Oh, and ignore film contamination, please.
> 

Tammy replies:

I would say that Voldemort probably left when Quirrell was in so much
pain right around the time that the pain in Harry's scar made him pass
out. Whatever else that scar is, it does seem to be an indicator of
Voldemort's emotions, and that blinding pain that made Harry pass out
was probably going through Voldemort, with Voldemort's only option
being to leave Quirrell's body. 

Of course that doesn't preclude the idea the Dumbledore arrived and
did something to Quirrell/Voldemort to make Voldemort leave Quirrell. 

What I want to know is this: If Voldemort hadn't left before Quirrell
died, would Voldemort have died as well (too lazy to look up if that's
been discussed before :P )

-Tammy