Dumbledore "failing" Harry (was: Adults "failing" Harry (was: Themes in OotP)
dumbledore11214
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Wed Dec 15 23:57:23 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119957
> Betsy:
> In the first place, Snape *does* explain to Harry why the lessons
are important. "The important point is that the Dark Lord is now
aware that you are gaining access to his thoughts and feelings. He
has also deduced that the process is likely to work in reverse; that
is to say he might be able to access your thoughts and feelings in
return --"
"And he might try to make me do things?" asked Harry. [...]
"He might," said Snape..." (OotP, pg 533, US hardback ed.)
Alla:
Oh, but Snape does not say nearly enough, at least IMO. I argued
earlier that it is NOT possible from this quote to deduce that
Voldemort will send Harry false visions. Harry IS aware about the
connection between himself and Voldemort at least since GoF. Nothing
new here. So, connection got stronger, not a good thing, but nothing
extraordinary. Just one more bad news from Harry's everyday life,
IMO at least. :o)
Snape does not say that Voldemort may send Harry false visions. I
would say that "make me do things" is much easier to interpret as
try to put Harry under Imperio and he fought it off previously.
Betsy;
I agree with you completely. Dumbledore really, really messed up.
But not in an out-of-character way, IMO. And his mistake provided
the catalyst for a really good story and some major character
unfoldment and/or growth. For the sake of Harry, I wish Dumbledore
had not made the choices he made. For the sake of the story...
well, it made a sad kind of sense to me, and threw an interesting
light on past events. Bring on Book 6, I say!
Alla:
This part of your post I completely agree with. Yes, I also argued
earlier that Dumbledore's screw ups were perfectly in character. he
showed an unfortunate pattern of hiding information from harry since
book 1, IMO and at the end of OOP we have "road to hell is covered
with good intentions", IMO.
I agree that it made for great read, but when we look at the
characters within story, sure we want to tell them what they did
wrong, right? :)
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