One last try (re: Parenting Harry (was: Re: I don't like him much))
dumbledore11214
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Mon Dec 20 18:25:04 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 120205
Eloise:
snip.
Is it clear where I'm coming from? (I'm not addressing
imamommy now.) I'm not commenting on the validity of the rules, the
necessity sometime to break them, the style of enforcing them, the
virtue of the characters, just on there being a role of being the
rule-upholder. Above all, I am not commenting on, approving of or
disapproving of Snape's actions.
snip.
> I have said that Snape performs a particular function in the text,
> one which I described as being the unpalatable side of parenting,
> being the Enforcer, if you like. (Just as a side note, although I
> defined this as a parenting role, it doesn't then necessitate that
> the role will be performed well.)
Alla:
Let me try one more time again, because I think we really are talking
past each other.
Look at the first part of your quote I snipped. If we are not
commenting on Snape's motivations and methods, but just on the fact
that he functions as rule upholder, then, sure I can agree that he
does that in the text.(unfairly, sadistically, IMO, but formally -
sure, I can agree)
But in the second part of your quote I snipped, you compare what
Snape does (being the rule upholder) with PARENTING and that I really
disagree with.
I cannot compare what Snape does with being a parent, because parent
does NOT in my opinion and experience upholds the rules the way Snape
does. Parent can NOT by my definition be a sadist towards a child,
even if the child breaks the rules.
In short - yes, I can agree that one of Snape's functions in the text
is to uphold the rules, but the way he does that, IMO, does not give
him a right to be called a PARENT, even metaphorically.
Enforcer - sure (who errs on the sadistic side), but not a PARENT,
not in my opinion at least.
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