Dumbledore as Order Founder (The Order an ancient society)

[vmonte]

No: HPFGUIDX 120682


Arya wrote: 
IMO, there is room for Hermione's stating that Dumbledore founded it
to battle Voldemort to be either an inacurrate presumption on her part
or on the part of whomever told her this.  Also, we know the
"children" were not exactly in the loop so this comment seems equally
as likely to be merely overheard and even tertiary knowledge, which,
as we know too well, is likely to misinterpretation and
miscommunication.  As far as I'm concerned, unless I hear it from
Dumbledore himself, the idea that he founded the Order merely to
counter Voldmort, is a rumour.  A rumour believed, apparently, by
Hermione, but a rumour nonetheless.

vmonte responds:
I keep wondering why JKR would have the brain attack at all, unless 
she needed another way to pass information about the past. (She used 
the penseive for this reason--to give us a glimpse into Dumbledore, 
James and Snape's past.)  

The brain attack has to be another way that JKR is going to give us 
information about the past. My guess is that we are going to get 
information about Godric and Salazar. If so, the brain would have to 
be the brain of someone from that time. If it's not SS or GG's brain, 
then it's possible it's Flamel's. 

And who is to say that Flamel wasn't older than what was known.  
Should we unconditionally trust what was printed in a book about 
Flamel? Even Hermione's wizard book (I cannot remember the name of 
the book now) didn't give the whole story about the house elves.

The Order is named after a bird that is continuously reborn. IMO, it 
makes sense if the Order was an ancient society that resurfaces in 
times of trouble. 

(Flamel could have once been the leader of the Order, and he may have 
trained DD to take over this role.)

Vivian