The Veil, HP & LOTR [was: Re: The Veil in the Chamber of Secrets?]

[greatelderone]

No: HPFGUIDX 120764


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, aUser wrote:
> Silvana:
> I like to compare the characters JKR develops with Tolkien's LOTR. 
JKR
> herself once stated writing her books she was inspired by 
Tolkien's work.
> 
> I made up some ideas of who might be who, but I had doubts about 
who is
> Aragorn.
> I admit that I thought of Ron because of the Quidditch-
jingle "Weasley is
> our king". But it didn't fit that good - Ron seems more to be Sam.

Agreed Ron does fit the Sam analogue quite well.

As for the Aragorn analogue, it's Harry of course. Both are beings 
chosen by prophecy(Harry by Trelawney and Voldemort while Malbeth 
predicted that Aragorn as Heir of Isildur would walk the paths of 
the dead) who have been raised in obscurity from their heritage
(Aragorn was raised in Rivendell and not told of his true heritage 
and Harry by the Dursleys) with their mothers playing a major role 
in their lives(Lily for Harry and Gilraen for Aragorn). Aragorn is 
given Anduril the reforged Narsil and Harry wields ever briefly the 
sword of Godric Gryffindor with Aragorn being the heir of Isildur 
while Harry as many of speculated is the Heir of Gryffindor to Tom's 
Heir of Slytherin. Finally both are of mixed blood, Aragorn himself 
has a bit of elven blood due to the fact that he is descended from 
Elros of Numenor while Harry is a mixture of both muggle born and 
purebloods and is thus a half blood.
 
> Reading your suggestion about Slytherin himself falling through 
the Veil, I
> came up with another idea:
> How about Sirius being Aragorn? 

GEO: Sirius is more of a Boromir analogue since both the first men 
to fall in their respective stories and are both portrayed  as 
somewhat rash.

He has little resemblance with Aragorn besides the fact that the 
movie characters look alike.

> Which location might be Minas Tirith the White City? I don't think 
it's
> Hogwarts... Maybe it could be No. 12 Grimmauld Place... IF Siruis 
is Aragorn
> this would be the place he heirs...

GEO: I think the MoM is the closest analogue we have to Minas Tirith.
 
> Peter Pettigrew (Wormtail) = Wormtongue

GEO: Peter Pettigrew is NOT an analogue for wormtongue. He more 
closely resembles Gollum, contemptible creatures under the Enemy 
that in the end will play an important part in good's triumph over 
evil.

> Dumbledore = Gandalf
> Fred & George Weasley = Merry & Pippin
> Lucius Malfoy = Saruman
> Rubeus Hagrid = Treebeard

GEO: How about Radagast the Brown. I always thought that Hagrid was 
more like him than Treebeard.

> I'm not sure about:
> Lupin = Faramir

GEO: I agree especially given how close Lupin and Sirius are.

> Fudge = Theoden

GEO: Fudge is definitely not Theoden. Fudge consciously refused to 
believe in Voldemort's return and tried to discredit anyone that 
said otherwise. Theoden was just an old man being misled by 
Wormtongue.

> I still wonder about who might be comparable to:
> Hermione Granger

GEO: Eowyn, niece of Theoden, only due to the fact that Eowyn is the 
only major female character in LOTR that gets her hands dirty.