Marietta and Hermione (was JKR's Messages ) (was Re: Hermione In Trouble?)

delwynmarch delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 31 13:27:53 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 120832


Eggplant wrote: 
"JK Rowling herself said there was a war, and I don't mean to be rude
 or anything but I think she has a tad more authority in these matters
than you do."

Del replies:
You're not answering the question. On that matter, I don't care what
JKR says *about* the books, I care what she says *in* the books. And
in the books there was no official and public declaration of war. Just
the word of a single teenage boy.

I, Del, wrote earlier:
"Where was the self-identified enemy?"

Eggplant answered:
"Huh?"

Del replies:
Nobody saw LV, except for Harry. A *single* teenage boy.
Where is LV's army? Nobody has seen LV reborn, and nobody has claimed
to be working for him. To use those WWII analogies you seem to like,
nobody has seen Hitler, and nobody is claiming to be a Nazi. So where
is the enemy army and what are they doing?

Del, and then Eggplant:
"Where were the casualties of war?"

"Are you joking?"

Del replies:
No I'm not. Where were the casualties *of war* ? I'm not talking about
those deaths that Harry attributes to LV or his buddies and that the
MoM explains in other ways. I'm talking about people who were
officially killed by the enemy. There aren't any for the public to
see, unless they believe Harry's conspiracy theory.

To use a WWII analogy again, not only has nobody seen Hitler or a
Nazi, but Germany hasn't invaded Austria or Poland either. So what war
are we talking about?

Hence, I maintain that the WW wasn't at war in OoP, because:
1. There is no visible enemy
2. There are no visible war casualties

That doesn't contradict the fact that there was a war going on in the
WW during OoP. But that war was very secret, it was in no way an open
thing. So I find it a bit unfair to expect the public to not only know
about it but even take a side in it.

The only visible war that was taking place in OoP was between Harry&DD
on one side and everyone else on the other side. Harry had come up
with a conspiracy theory that DD was supporting, and the MoM was
fighting it. People *did* know about that one, and they did take a
side in it.

As you said in your other post : it's all about how much information
people have access to, and then exercising their best judgement.

Del







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