Marietta and Hermione (was JKR's Messages ) (was Re: Hermione In Trouble?)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 120885


Del (responding to Eggplant):
> Nobody saw LV, except for Harry. A *single* teenage boy. <snip>
Nobody [except Harry] has seen LV reborn, and nobody has claimed to be
working for him. <snip>
<snip>
> Hence, I maintain that the WW wasn't at war in OoP, because:
> 1. There is no visible enemy
> 2. There are no visible war casualties
> 
> That doesn't contradict the fact that there was a war going on in
the WW during OoP. But that war was very secret, it was in no way an
open thing. So I find it a bit unfair to expect the public to not only
know about it but even take a side in it.
<snip>
> As you said in your other post: it's all about how much information
> people have access to, and then exercising their best judgement.


Carol adds:
One more point in support of Del. Harry refuses to explain, either to
Cho alone or to the DA, how Cedric died. Granted, he might not have
been believed if he had done so, but he doesn't even make the attempt.
There's only the half-truth, stated by Harry and echoed by Dumbledore,
that Voldemort murdered Cedric. Bodiless Vapormort, whom the DA
members may or may not know was formerly inside Quirrell's head,
murdered a TWT champion? The DA members don't know that Wormtail
resurrected Voldemort, much less that Babymort ordered Wormtail to
"kill the spare." It's surprising that *any* of the DA members other
than the Gryffindors believe Harry. He's told them virtually nothing.

And it's no surprise at all that Marietta, whose mother works for the
MoM, thinks he's inventing the story of Voldemort's return, perhaps to
cover his own guilt in Cedric's death. He's provided no evidence
whatever to support his claim. As Del indicates, the only available
"information" was what the MoM provided via the Daily Prophet. Harry
does not even provide his own explanation of events. And DD doesn't
explain them, either. He merely asks for a salute to the murdered
Cedric and another to Harry, who has miraculously escaped Voldemort.
*How?* *What happened?* The students aren't told. And, to repeat,
Harry adamantly refuses to clarify matters for the DADA members:

"Zacharias said dismissively, 'All Dumbledore told us last year was
that Cedric Diggory got killed by You-Know-Who and that you brought
Diggory's body back to Hogwarts. He didn't give us details, he didn't
tell us exactly how Diggory got murdered, I think we'd all like to know--'

"'If you've come to hear exactly what it looks like when Voldemort
murders someone I can't help you,' Harry said. His temper. . . was
rising again. . . . "I don't want to talk about Cedric Diggory, all
right? So if that's what you're here for, you might as well clear out"
(OoP Am. ed. 341).

Harry has hardly strengthened his position with that reaction.
Hermione rescues the situation by reminding the group that they're
meeting to "learn some defense." Had she not spoken up, it's likely
that Zacharias, Marietta, and others would have walked out at that
moment. If Harry had told the full truth, they would have realized
that he could not be making it up. Instead, he aroused their
suspicions by being suspicious himself.

Carol, hoping for a civil response that does not label her views as
"ridiculous" or "nonsense"