Marietta and Hermione (was JKR's Messages ) (was Re: Hermione In Trouble?)

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"delwynmarch" <delwynmarch at y...> wrote:

> And yet somehow Marrietta is evil
> for being wrong in her judgement?

Exactly. Bad moral judgment is the very definition of evil, if you 
really need a definition for such a thing.

> How do you know that she didn't do exactly 
> what you describe : use her human judgement
> and do the best she could? 

She very well may have done so, but in this case the best she could 
was not nearly good enough and when you make a moral miscalculation 
of that magnitude you can expect negative repercussions. Call me 
crazy but I just don't like people who make bad moral judgments,
not ones that big anyway. 

> What made the DA a good organisation according
> to that definition, in the eyes of someone 
> who did not believe that LV was back? 

I'm not interested in this "in the eyes of" stuff,
the fact is that Voldemort HAS returned and if a 
person does not believe it then that person is WRONG.
Wrong is not good.

> Did she give them a choice? 

Yes, she gave them a choice, and BEFORE anybody signed anything she 
warned them what it would mean, I quote from page 346:
 
"If you sign you're agreeing not to tell Umbridge or
anybody else what we're up to." 

If you kept your word the hex made no difference and 
if you didn't then you I don't much care what happens to you.

> He or anybody else couldn't wiggle out 
> of that one without looking bad. 

Yes, if Ernie had not signed he would have been perceived by the 
others as a sniveling spineless coward, and I believe that 
perception would have been exactly correct; it would have been a 
classic example of choosing what is easy over what is right. 
Fortunately in the end Ernie made the correct decision, probably 
helped by Hermione's inspiring words.  

> I don't care what JKR says *about* the books,
> I care what she says *in* the books. And in
> the books there was no official and public 
> declaration of war. 

Take a look at chapter 38, you know the one I'm talking about,
the one titled "The Second War Begins".

> The WW owed Harry gratitude for somehow
> ridding them of LV 14 years ago. But 
> Harry didn't do it *on purpose*

What about the time he stopped Voldemort's plans when he was 11?
What about the time he stopped Voldemort's plans when he was 12? 
What about the time when he was 14 and magically arm wrestled with 
Voldemort and won?  And yet even after all that some people think 
Umbridge is more trustworthy than Harry, that is a bad moral 
judgment, a very very bad moral judgment. 

> Harry could watch Cho cry without feeling moved 

I too lost all sympathy Cho when she was sticking up for Marrietta 
even after her treachery and betrayal.

Eggplant