Marietta and Hermione (was JKR's Messages ) (was Re: Hermione In Trouble?)

[delwynmarch]

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Eggplant wrote: 
"Bad moral judgment is the very definition of evil, if you really need
a definition for such a thing."

Del replies:
So a little kid who makes fun of another because he is fat/of a
different colour/handicapped/ugly/whatever is evil? Interesting. I
guess you find *everyone* evil then, because *everyone* I know made a
bad moral judgement one day or the other.

Eggplant wrote:
"She very well may have done so, but in this case the best she could 
was not nearly good enough and when you make a moral miscalculation of
that magnitude you can expect negative repercussions. Call me crazy
but I just don't like people who make bad moral judgments, not ones
that big anyway. "

Del replies:
You mean "the best she could  was not nearly good enough FOR YOU".
You're constantly mixing up facts, opinions and preferences. For
example, from what you said above, I deduce that one reason you think
Marrietta evil is because you don't like the mistake she made.
Basically what you're saying is "what I like is right and good and
what I don't like is evil and wrong", which prompts me to ask : are
you a god?

Eggplant wrote:
"I'm not interested in this "in the eyes of" stuff, the fact is that
Voldemort HAS returned and if a person does not believe it then that
person is WRONG. Wrong is not good."

Del replies:
If wrong is not good, then nobody, whether in RL or in the
Potterverse, is good, everybody is evil, because everybody has been
wrong at least once in their life. Is that what you're saying?

Eggplant wrote:
"Yes, if Ernie had not signed he would have been perceived by the 
others as a sniveling spineless coward, and I believe that perception
would have been exactly correct; it would have been a classic example
of choosing what is easy over what is right. Fortunately in the end
Ernie made the correct decision, probably helped by Hermione's
inspiring words.  "

Del replies:
He made the right decision ACCORDING TO YOU. In my idea, if he or
anyone else didn't *mean* to promise not to say anything, then signing
that paper was a very wrong decision.

I, Del, wrote:
"I don't care what JKR says *about* the books, I care what she says
*in* the books. And in the books there was no official and public 
declaration of war. "

Eggplant answered:
"Take a look at chapter 38, you know the one I'm talking about, the
one titled "The Second War Begins"."

Del replies:
You mean the LAST chapter of OoP?
Oh, I get it : not only are characters in a book supposed to know that
they are characters in a book and who the hero of the book is, but
they must also know what will happen at the end of the book...

In fact, the very fact that you pointed proves that I was right : if
JKR titled the LAST chapter of OoP "The Second War Begins", then it
means that there was NO LV war going on during the rest of the book.

Eggplant wrote: 
"What about the time he stopped Voldemort's plans when he was 11?"

Del replies:
What do people know about that? Is there any other witness to this
than Harry?

Eggplant wrote:
"What about the time he stopped Voldemort's plans when he was 12? "

Del replies:
What do people know about that? Is there any other witness to this
than Harry?

Eggplant wrote:
"What about the time when he was 14 and magically arm wrestled with 
Voldemort and won?"

Del replies:
Is there any other witness to this than Harry?

Do you really expect everyone to believe the word of a single teenage boy?

Eggplant wrote:
"I too lost all sympathy Cho when she was sticking up for Marrietta 
even after her treachery and betrayal."

Del replies:
You're mixing the timeline up again. Harry wasn't moved by Cho's tears
long *before* the Marrietta Problem happened.

Del