The Veil, HP & LOTR
greatelderone
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Fri Dec 31 21:02:36 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 120872
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Silvana Roven"
<silvanaroven at y...> wrote:
> Silvana:
> I see your point. But I still tend to see Harry as
> being Frodo. It is Harry who has to defeat the Dark
> Lord.
GEO: We don't know that. It seems from the recent evidence that
it's going to be a team effort. As for Harry and Aragorn, both are
considered the direct enemies of the two Dark Lords despite the fact
that Aragorn could never defeat Sauron just as Harry presently has
no hope of defeating Voldemort by himself.
> Frodo inherited the One Ring from his uncle Bilbo who
> was like a father to him.
> Harry has only one thing, he has inherited from his
> father: the INVISIBILITY cloak...
GEO: And Aragorn inherited the Ring of Barahir, the shards of Narsil
and the scepter of Arnor from his family legacy kept in trust by the
elves.
> AND I dislike your comparison of the Elves to the
> Dursleys. In my opinion this family is like ORCS!!!
> *lol*
GEO: They aren't a direct analogue, but both kept Aragorn and Harry
safe from their enemies while they were children.
> Silvana:
> Yes, he is the first man to fall... on the "side of
> the light". The first one JKR killed was Quirrel. And
> Quirrel has been tempted by Voldemort's power - as was
> Boromir.
GEO: Thats rather minor. Besides the thing between Boromir and
Faramir is rather similar to Sirius and Remus, which is why I'm more
inclined toward Sirius as Boromir and Quirrel died unrepentent
unlike Boromir who died fighting the enemy like Sirius did.
Silvana:
> ;-) Both didn't want to enter upon the inheritance of
> their ancestors...
>
GEO: That never happened in the book. Aragorn wanted the throne.
> Silvana:
> Radaghast the Brown? Help me with this one, please.
> Who was it?
GEO: He was one of the five wizards along with Gandalf and Saruman
sent to ME by the Powers of the West and like Hagrid he had a
fondness for the wilderness and its beasts which eventually caused
him to stray though from his mission and like Hagrid Radagast was
thought to be a simpleton by many.
>
> Silvana:
> Fudge apologized to DD after the battle at the MoM and
> finally agreed on Voldemort's return. So I hope he
> will join and support DD against LV.
GEO: I doubt it, he's more of an analogue of Chamberlain and the
typical politician so I'm guessing he's still going to be a
hinderance by overreacting to Voldemort.
> Silvana:
> How about Snape being the match for... Gollum! :-D JKR
> describes him as an ugly person. Once he was on LV's
> side (as an active DE) now he has changed sides and
> helps DD and Harry. He lives in the Dungeons as did
> Gollum. Ron (=Sam) hates him and doesn't trust him.
> Harry (= Frodo) has learned Snape's story from the
> Pensive (belongs to DD! = Gandalf) and he understood
> Snape's reactions / felt ashamed for his father.
GEO: Snape is definitely not Gollum. Snape has a will of his own
unlike Gollum who is a pawn of the Ring or the Enemy. Again I think
it's Peter Pettigrew, who is the closest.
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