The Second Voldemort War, Stage II

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 91130

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, gsanderson at c... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lizvega2" <lizvega2 at y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > LizVega here:
> > 
> > After reading OOP- and more importantly the chapter "The Lost 
> > Prophecy" - I have wondered what Voldemort saw that no one is 
> > aware  of yet. ...edited....
>
> LizVaga


> Kristen:
>
> <De-lurk>
> 
> I don't have the section to quote, but it came from Dumbledore...the 
> theory is that LV didn't realize Harry's connection to his mind
> until Mr. Weasley's attack.  ...edited...
> 
> Kristen
>

bboy_mn:

Harry insight and visions while awake don't occur until later in the
book. So, for example, during the dementor attack in Little Whinging,
Voldemort might have sense some vague emotions or felt some sense of
fear that he couldn't explain, but I seriously doubt he had any vision
unless he was asleep and dreaming at the time. Even then, I have my
doubts that he saw anything, and if he did, I doubt that he would
understand what it all meant. 

Later in the book, when the link is obviously stronger, and Voldemort
is starting to comprehend what is going on, Voldemort may have been
able to sense more of Harry's feeling, and might have had a stronger
connection to him. But at no time do we really see Harry with a strong
waking connection to Voldemort. As the book goes on, Harry can sense
the nature of Voldemort's feelings (happy, sad, etc...) but they
aren't visual. 

We have never seen Harry able to see into Voldemort's mind or sense
his feelings at will. However, it is clear that once Voldemort
understands what is going on, and is able to work the connection to
his advantage, he is able to manipulate Harry's mind, but only when
Harry is asleep.

As far as remote viewing through Harry's eye while they are both
awake, there are some subtle hints that this might be occurring, as
when Harry feel an angry snake welling up inside him when he looks at
Dumbledore. However, this could just as easily be a case of Harry
seeing Dumbledore and that feeling or thought of Dumbledore is
transmitted to Voldemort. From Voldemort's perspective, it could just
be a random thought of Dumbledore popping into his mind. This would
bring up his intense hatred of Dumbledore and his desire to kill him.
These feeling would in turn be transmitted back to Harry. 

That's just as logical an explanation, as thinking that Voldemort is
awake and literally seeing Dumbledore through Harry's eyes. 

While we will have to wait for the book to prove me out, I think
because Harry has the scar, he has the tightest connection; he is able
to see more of Voldemort without effort. However, now that Voldemort
is aware of the connection, even though his connection to Harry isn't
the strongest of the two, Voldemort is gifted at 'reading' people's
minds. So, whereas Harry's connection works off of instinct; Voldemort
could increase the effectiveness of his own connection through the
focused effort of Legilimency.

Either way, it's not like watching TV for either of them, it either
takes a vulnerable state of mind, or a forced concentrated effort. And
 now that they are both aware of the connection and it's potential, I
think they are both going to be blocking their minds against the
other. By blocking Harry out of his mind, Voldemort by default, also
closes the link to Harry. In a sense, when he prevents Harry from
getting in, he is also preventing himself from getting out.

Just a few thoughts.

bboy_mn