[HPforGrownups] Re: Crouch's motivation

[Silverthorne Dragon]

No: HPFGUIDX 91593


{psychobirdgirl:}

 So about the Imperius, I think that the part of Crouch that sees his
wrongdoing and feels remorse thinks that it would be unfair to send  Harry
to Voldemort unprepared, and since he cannot undo all that has been planned,
he teaches Harry something to make the fight more fair.


{john}

I disagree completely. Crouch stayed in disguise an entire year, think of
how much dedication that takes. He has to continuously cut the real Moody's
hair and feed him, while brewing a complicated potion, simply so that his
master can kill a 14 year old boy who has never hurt an innocent fly. Are
these the actions of a man who feels
remorse for what he has done?


{Anne}

Personally, I think that Crouch actaully disobeyed Dumbly (if Dumbly even
mentioned 'showing' the curses to Harry's class), and that his showing the
Unforgivables to Harry's  was neither due to Crouch following orders, nor
feeling remorse and trying to help Harry the only way he could. What I
honestly think is that he was unhinged. Completely, totally, unhinged.

He didn't show Harry's class the Unforgivables to help them...but more
likely because he knew that 1) It would probably scare the kids (especially
Harry--who has 'flashbacks' to his mom's death--something I suspect Voldy
might have an inkling of-- and scare Neville (as well as give him an
opportunity later to chum up to both kids to smooth over any 'bad' felings
either might have had in class)-who I'm sure every DE knew what was done to
his parents...). and 2) Crouch just wanted to mess around while he could.

I doubt that it even occured to Crouch Jr. that it would really actaully
help Harry later--if you really pay attention to how he speaks and acts,
even as Moody--you can tell he is seriously unhinged, not all there, a few
bottles short of a six pack, etc. Heck, not even Moody, in book 5, is as
paranoid and flat out crazy as Crouch-as-Moody in book 4...and Moody
supposedly IS a nutcase, if you believe the rumors said about him in both
book 4 and 5...

And quite honestly   true, crazy folks just don't think in the same, logical
way...where you or I might go "doh! I'll be teachingg Harry how to fight off
the Dark Lord", Crouch was probably going along the lines of "Heh...let's
see just how far I CAN push the brat, shall I?", menawhile forgetting that
the more he pushes...the more Harry will learn...

Not to mention, after 'teaching' them how to resist the Imperious Curse, he
can certainly go and tell Voldy just how strong each of those kids are
against the Imperious, now, can't he? *EG*