[HPforGrownups] Re: WHY a vampire? was No fire in the office

jazmyn jazmyn at pacificpuma.com
Sun Jan 4 17:08:53 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 88070



jakedjensen wrote:
> WHY a vampire?  A good question, but one with many answers.  I am
> always astounded by those who think Snape being a vampire would be a
> cheap trick or some other less than satisfactory move by JKR.  I
> think it would amazing.
> 

I do not think it would be amazing. But then, I am not a Goth and have 
no interest in seeing my favorite character as a vampire. I guess that 
puts me in the 'JKR's cheap trick' group if it happened.

> 1.  Explanation.  For some reason Snape and LV parted ways.  Why?  If
> Snape was a vampire (and LV found out) then he might have been
> ridiculed or demoted within the DE (one can think of countless
> reasons why Snape's vampirism might be the missing link in this
> plotline....maybe LV experimented on his DEs and Snape was turned
> into a vampire in the process...and for this Snape came to hate LV). 
> It would also explain why DD trusts Snape.  Snape will not go back to
> LV because LV views him as not-pure (or something along these lines).
> 

Far as LV knows, Snape is still a Death Eater. There is far more canon 
showing Snape as a spy then a vampire, pretending to be a Death Eater 
while reporting to the Order. A number of DEs avoided Azkaban by 
claiming to be 'controlled', then returning to LV's side soon as it was 
clear he was back in action. Thus.. Snape is likely a more or less 
respected DE, not ridiculed for being a 'vampire'.  If he were not in 
good standing, he would not be effective as s spy.

> 2. Irony.  Hitler promoted a physical image he did not live up to. 
> LV is a parody of this (i.e., he is not a pure-blood).  Snape might
> be the same way (the source of his anger is his own feeling o
> difference).
> 

The problem with that idea, is that vampires are as pureblood as they 
were before they became vampires.  Being as vampires are HUMANS who were 
made into vampires by other vampires. Being also as vampires are undead, 
their purity of blood doesn't matter as they cannot breed anyways.
The source of Snape's anger seems more from growing up abused by his 
parents and schoolmates.

> 3. Explanation (2).  Snape has a lot of strange traits (great might
> reader, likes the dungeon, etc.) that all make sense if he is a
> vampire.  They make sense if he is not too, admittedly.
> 

What canon is there to suggest he LIKES the dungeons?  Or likes much of 
anything? Maybe he just works there?

I don't see any strange traits that I've not seen in any number of 
humans.  I like caves, does that make me a bat?

> 4. Why Snape hates Lupin so much. 


He hates Lupin for his being one of the Marauders, for being a close 
friend of James, for not being able to control James when Lupin was a 
prefect and for almost killing him as a teenager (Even though Lupin 
could not control that). He hates him because he is terrified that Lupin 
will turn into a wolf and finish what he failed to do back in school. 
Snape is also afraid that Lupin will hurt a student, which is a valid 
worry as Lupin did fail to take his potion on time, causing Snape to 
find him and Sirius in the Shrieking Shack, etc.


> 
> 5.  Lupin would use the vampire essay if Snape was a vampire.  Not to
> be mean, but to send a message that he didn't appreciate Snape's
> actions and to stand up for himself.  This isn't Lupin being mean.

Red Herring.  Besides, vampires are one of the things the kids are 
taught about anyways.

There is NO WAY that Dumbledore would be so reckless as to hire a 
Vampire as a teacher. Werewolves are only part time monsters (full 
moons), but a vampire is a monster 24/7.  Vampires must sleep in their 
native soil during the DAY, while Snape is teaching classes.. and Snape 
is also up late at night, catching students out of bed, so he likely has 
insomnia, which would make sense for someone who is a spy.  Stress does 
that.  Vampires are undead who feed on the blood of humans.. and noone 
is going to trust them in a job with children.

1. Snape has not been witnessed drinking blood.
2. Snape has not been witnessed sleeping in a coffin, box of dirt or 
anything like that.
3. Snape has not been witnessed during into a bat (or any other animals).
4. Snape has not been witnessed at any time with fangs.
5. Snape does not possess super human strength or he would have faired 
better against being bounced off a wall and knocked out by a few kids 
with wands.
6. Snape refereed a Quidditch game outside during the day and far as I 
know, Sunblock won't stop the sun from destroying a vampire as its not 
just UV rays that effect them.
7. Snape teaches classes during the daytime when all good little 
blood-suckers are asleep.
8. Vampires are not allowed to have wands as they are not 'humans' 
anymore by definition as they cannot overcome their bloodthirsty natures 
(despite what 'Buffy' fans think), unlike a Werewolf who can just lock 
themselves up on a full moon.
9. Snape bleeds.  Undead don't bleed like humans.
10. There is no canon to suggest anyone can be a half-vampire. Its like 
being pregnant, you can't be 'a little bit pregnant'. You are either a 
vampire or not a vampire. You can't say "I only suck blood on every 
other Tues."  (Too many 'Vampire Hunter D' fans thinking Snape is like 
'D'.  Note that even D can't control his base nature all the time and 
'vamps out' when under a lot of stress or too close to a tasty neck. And 
I don't consider Anime a good source of canon for a world whose magical 
creatures so far have been based more on old legends, not new movies.)
11. Wearing black no more makes a person a vampire then wearing green 
makes a person a leprechaun.
12. Living or working in a dungeon does not a vampire make. It might 
make a grumpy, ill-tempered person who lacks a good tan though.
13. If everyone with black eyes was a vampire, then Hagrid would be one 
too. Black eyes exist in real life, though it is linked with color 
blindness.


I would say there is more evidence for Sirius being a vampire then 
Snape, as Sirius could turn into a huge black dog and slept on dirt (in 
the cave). ;)

Jazmyn







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