GOF: US Murder vs UK Curse

strawberryshaunie strawberryshaunie at yahoo.ca
Mon Jan 5 01:15:03 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 88101

bboy_mn wrote:
Since no one seems to fit the bill for death, I suspect 
that reading
the UK edition will give me some insight into what JKR 
intended to say
here.

Any help with the UK edition?

hope this helps:
(wormtail is trying to convince Voldie to use someone other than HP 
for the revival potion. Voldie thinks he just wants an excuse to get 
away from him to look for someone else...)

VOLD: "I have my reasons for using the boy, as I have already told 
you, and I will use no other. I have waited thirteen years. A few 
more months will make no difference. As for the protection 
surrounding the boy, I believe my plan will be effective. All that is 
needed is a little coursge from you, Wormtail - courage you will 
find, unless you wish to feel the full extent of Lord Voldemort's 
wrath-"

"MY LOrd,I must speak!" said Wormtail, panic in his voice now. " All 
through our journey I have gone over the paln in my head - my Lord, 
Bertha Jorkins's disappearance will not go unnoticed for long, and if 
we proceed, if I *curse* (my emphasis) -"
   
      "If?" whispered the first voice. "/If/? If you follow the plan, 
Wormtail, the Ministry need never know that anyone else has 
disappeared. You will do it quietly, and without fuss; I only wish 
that I could do it myself, but in my present condition... come, 
wormtail, one more obstacle removed and our path to Harry Potter is 
clear. I am not asking you to do it alone. By that time, my faithful 
servant will have rejoined us -'

***
   "one more curse ... my faithful servant at Hogwarts ... Harry 
Potter is as good as mine, Wormtail. It is decided. There will be no 
more argument...."


   So yes, the use of the word "murder" changes things quite a bit. 
Here it makes more sense: wormtail must use the Imperius in order to 
complete the next step of the plan. Wormtail's reluctance is not in 
using the curse, it is in using Harry.
  
One thing that still isn't solved, though is *who* this next curse is 
supposed to be for. It's obviously either Moody or Crouch Sr., but 
which 
one? they were both crucial to Voldie's plan, but he says "one" more 
curse, not two.
firstly, LV says: "the Ministry need never know that anyone else has 
disappeared..." he probably means that they need not know that Moody 
is missing at all (yes, Crouch went "missing" too, but I assume he 
had that part of the plan figured out, thus the letters to Percy to 
prevent any suspicion). However:

    "I only wish that I could do it myself, but in my 
present condition..."
It sounds like he's quite eager to get back at Crouch Sr. for all 
that anti-LV work he did back in the day...but he could also have a 
lot of hatred for Moody, for the same reasons, so it could be either 
one here.

then, Vold.  says: "come, Wormtail, one more obstacle removed and our 
path to Harry Potter is clear."
who's the obstacle? Moody would definitely make it very difficult for 
Crouch Jr. to get his hands on Potter (or the portkey) if he somehow 
infltrated Hogwarts without stealing his identity, but I see Moody as 
more of tool than an obstacle in LV's eyes. Perhaps he hadn't decided 
to have Crouch Jr. take the polyjuice yet?
On the other hand, Crouch Sr. is a big obstacle, because he's got 
Crouch Jr. under his control (incidentally, I thought Crouch Sr. was 
supposed to a the strict, unwavering, law abiding member of the 
ministry...and here he is, keeping his own son under one of the 
Unforgivables...Percy never would have believed it).

finally: "I am not asking you to do it alone. By that time, 
my /faithful/ servant will have rejoined us -"
hmmm doesn't sound like he's talking about cursing Crouch Sr. because 
the whole point of that would be to *free* his faithful servant. 
Sounds  like he's expecting his servant by the time they've cursed 
Moody...

so I'm right back to where I started, and have no idea who he 
means...but I'm sure it's one of the two...

-Shaunie


 






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