Why ole Snapey is a vamp was Re: No fire in the office
jakedjensen
jakejensen at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 10 08:12:02 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88361
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com,
Kneasy wrote:
> Fans may offer counter arguments, but it doesn't seem that startling
> revelations of what someone is are multi-volume threads. The only
> arguable instance is Scabbers (introduced in book 1 and revealed in
> book 3), but for the first two books he was a minor cast member who
> blossomed(!) in book 3. To put it crudely, he was 'a nothing' that
> became 'a something'. He may yet become a 'something else' but that
> has already been hinted at with his debt to Harry.
>.
This is an insightful observation. True, most significant character
transformations occur over the course of a single text. However, I
think it is safe to say that significant character revelations are
approaching for Lily Evans, one of the Dursleys (probably Pet.), one
of the OoTP (probably turn out to be a counterspy), Neville (or one
of the Longbottoms), and Snape (just to name a few). These character
transformations will be appear at the end of the series, even though
JKR has been developing them for thousands of pages. So, for
example, if all of a sudden Petunia is revealed to be a squib who
lived actively in the WW for most of her early years it would be a
lengthy revelation (started in book one). So, given that such
transformations/revelations are likely for at least some of the main
characters, I think we should consider them a definite
possibility.
Kneasy wrote:
> As to the evidence produced by Pippin, filoroll and others, all I
can
> say is that, *IMO*, all of it can be explained by alternative
> interpretations. Moreover, and I may be mistaken here, the only
> reason that the adherents of the Snape!Vampire theory seem to
> have is a desire to see a vampire in the story somewhere and Snape
> is the one elected. Now if someone can offer cogent reasons *why*
> Snape needs to be a vampire, I'll be more than happy to listen (and
> probably to dissent, but that's beside the point).
>
> Add to this the evidence countering the Snape!Vampire hypothesis
> (that he doesn't show the behavioural characteristics associated
with
> the breed), and I hope you will understand my deep scepticism.
Speaking for myself, my belief in the Snape!Vampire theory does not
stem from a desire to see a vampire in the story somewhere. My
belief was driven by the canon. What originally sparked my curiosity
was the exchange between Lupin and Snape in PoA. Here it is in
summary:
1. Snape is especially bothered by Lupin being DADA (as evidenced by
his constant nagging on DD about it). Note that Snape does not
bother DD about a DADA (at least, JKR does not mention it) even
though the others are Quirrel, Lockhart, Moody, and Umbridge.
Clearly Snape did not like any of these other four, but JKR notes
that he is especially miffed about Lupin. Hmmm....
2. Snape subs for Lupin and assigns an essay on werewolves. He is
especially nasty about this (even for Snape).
3. Lupin discovers that Snape has assigned the werewolf essay. He
cancels it. He does not assign an essay on vampires.
4. Harry is in trouble. Snape has caught him sneaking out the
Hogsmeade and in possession of the map. Snape is putting the
pressure on. Summons Lupin to office to discuss map. Starts to put
the pressure on Lupin. Lupin offers a lame cover for the map (like
Snape believed it was a joke shop item) and then (as if to silence an
anticipated retort) he says asks Harry if he can talk to him about
his vampire essay. Snape does not respond. Lupin and Harry exit to
hallway where they do not discuss any vampire essay.
5. Future books reveal Lupin's curr. for DADA and surprisingly
vampires are not mentioned (but all other monsters they covered
are). In addition, vampires seem to be much more complex monsters
than the others covered by third years (bloodcaps and such).
This exchange got me to thinking about Snape. We know he has some
secret. Probably multiple secrets. Mainly, why did he leave the
DE? Why did he come to Hogwarts?
As I peiced back through the books I noticed that (1) JKR is always
talking about vampires (like a running joke to herself), (2) Snape
looks like a vampire (see both description of Snape in book and
drawing by JKR), (3) Snape is described as a bat several times by
multiple characters, (4) Snape is skilled at reading minds (a power
attributed to vampires in many myths), (5) Snape was treated by Filch
in book one when he was injured (which, at the time, seems like a way
to avoid the attention of his fellow teachers...but we later learn
that this is not the case...he is on the side of good...so why
Filch....who is a bit on the dark side himself), (6) Snape is often
pictured in the books doing things at night (roaming the halls, the
dark forest, outside the castle looking for Harry...why was Snape
doing this and not McGonagall?), (7) indeed, Snape is often used by
DD for special physical tasks (guard the stone, search the forests,
etc.) which seems odd (Snape is not an athelete or anything), (8) JKR
says DD won't give Snape DADA because it would "bring out the worst
in him" (what does that mean?), (9) Quirrels been teaching at
Hogwarts for awhile, but suddenly he is very concerned about vampires
(needs a "new" book on vampires....Hagrid says he ran into a vampire
during his year off...but when was that...last year....or before he
started teaching...not clear...what is clear is that Snape is on his
case). Just to mention a few things. So I thought, "Might Snape be
a vampire? Is that what JKR is hinting at? Is that possibly part of
the reason he left the DE? Maybe he contracted vampirism and was
shunned by LV, the DEs, or something like that?" The more I looked,
the more it seemed to be a possibility. I mentioned it to others and
they were like, "Whoa...that's crazy...but, yeah, that would make
this make more sense...or, maybe that explains why this happened.."
Sure, there is canon evidence suggesting he is not. Where are his
pointy teeth? Well, most myths say that vampire grow there teeth
before they feed (or they would be pretty easy to identity). Where
are all the dead bodies from him feeding? Well, there are a number of
ways around this. He is a potions master. Maybe he mixed a potion
(like Blade). Maybe he feeds on non-humans (like chickens, or deer
in the forests...we know there are other vampires there and we have
seen Snape go in there...doesn't seemed bothered by it and DD seems
to think of him when he thinks forest....see end of OoTP). What
about a coffin? Well, we haven't seen where Snape sleeps and if he
is like most vampires his coffin is probably hidden. Most of all,
what about sunlight? JKR already gave us a way out of this. Lupin
feared the moonlight of a full moon, but he drank a potion and it
allowed him to survive it. Who made that potion? Why none other
than Snape.
Anyway, none of this is to say that Snape "has" to be a vampire. All
it says is that there is canon evidence and a logical reason for
Snape being a vampire. He might not be. But I think I have laid out
a reasonable case that a person can look at and say, "Hmmm that's
interesting...I may not believe it...but I can see what you mean."
Nuff outta me,
Jake
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