Vampire/Half Vampire/Schvampire -was all the other vampire Snape stuff

ameliagoldfeesh ameliagoldfeesh at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 14 17:46:26 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 88698

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "junediamanti" 
<june.diamanti at b...> wrote:

<BIG SNIP> 
 
> So far I've been threatened by "metaphorical" razor blades <bg>, 
I've 
> heard the same repeated shifty attempts to move the "vampire lore" 
> goalposts whenever a good point is made that you the pro-Vampire 
> theorists cannot effectively counter, the absurd suggestion of the 
> vampire controlling potion,  <SNIP>... 

A Goldfeesh asks:

Why is the thought of a "vampire controlling potion" absurd?  Before 
reading POA I certainly never had heard of any werewolf controlling 
potions that I can recall.  (By recall, I mean I don't remember any 
from popular media or folklore, although the idea of a potion could 
exist, I just hadn't encountered it).  So, if JKR could conceive of 
a werewolf controlling potion, why not a vampire controlling one?  
After, all she does continue/use similar items/spells.  If 
invisibility cloaks exist why should there be need of the 
disillusionment charm?  Wizards have brooms and the Floo Network, so 
why have Portkeys?

(June)
<I've made my case.  People are listening and a number of posters 
<have agreed.  Have I won my case?  Well put it this way, there is 
<no doubt in my mind that were this a case in law in England, with 
<Snape accused of vampirism, and yourselves prosecuting with me 
<defending -on the basis of the points you (the Vampire!Snape lobby) 
<have made so far, would see your case thrown out.  It's a draw at 
<least or a collapsed case for you!

A Goldfeesh:
What if this current discussion was being held just before POA  -or- 
if all the people in the discussion had only read POA up to the end 
of "Professor Trelawney's Prediction"? (The chapter immediately 
before "Cat, Rat, and Dog.)

Would anyone honestly believe that Scabbers was Peter Pettigrew or 
that Sirius had been set up in such a clever way? Even though once 
you looked back on the Pettigrew/Scabbers evidence there was some, 
including some that could easily be explained away.  For instance, 
Scabbers was a very long-lived rat- he had been in the family for 
twelve years, while a real/muggle rat can maybe reach five years at 
the oldest.  "Oh, JKR doesn't know her rat facts." Or "he's a 
magical rat similar to the black rats in the pet store- just not up 
to their level of playing jump rope with their tails."

Or if this was before GOF was published.  Had someone come on here 
and said "I think that Snape had been a Death Eater before being 
hired on at Hogwarts" I'm sure there might have been some 
dissenters.  (I don't believe anyone made this allegation pre-GOF as 
far as I can remember on this list-but I'm not one-hundred percent 
sure...)

I'm just trying to point out that JKR likes setting a bit of 
groundwork, then surprising us.  People have noticed this- or I'm 
sure the "Snape is a vampire!" discussion wouldn't even be taking 
place.

A Goldfeesh
(who honestly hopes Snape ISN'T a vampire, but a human...but who 
could live with it if he were a vampire.  And who also notices this 
discussion drags anti-vampire people as defenders of the vampire
theory...odd :) )





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