Ron as Prefect (was: Chapter Discussion...)

[Susan Miller]

No: HPFGUIDX 88746

 Andrew asked:
> 
> >What about the Mirror, when Ron sees himself as quiditch captain,
> >prefect, and head boy; his brothers each did these, but they didnt
> >do them all at once. Perhaps it is forshadowing that Ron will do 
all
> >of these.
> 
Then Troels noted:

> In which case, for consistency's sake (and IMO) Harry seeing himself
> surrounded by his family must mean that he'll die as that is is the
> only way this image can come true ...
> 
> Or perhaps the Mirror, as Dumbledore /explicitly/ tells us " this
> mirror will give us neither knowledge or truth."
> 

Constance Vigilance (me):

Ah! My OTHER controversial theory, first described some time ago as 
The Mirror Lies. Thank you, Troels, for pointing out the canonical 
proof that The Mirror Lies: "... this mirror will give us neither ... 
truth ..." I pointed out back then that we know of only one case 
where the time for the results of the mirror have come and gone 
(Quirrell sees himself giving the stone to his master) and it was a 
lie. Ron sees himself winning the Quidditch Cup, which is true. We do 
not know if any of the other things he sees may come to pass, but 
then, Ron's history as a Seer may color what he sees in the mirror, 
so his experience may be atypical.

The point that I made way back then that stirred up so much feeling 
was that I did not believe that the people that Harry saw in the 
mirror necessarily *ever* existed, just that Harry wanted them to. 
True, his mother and father existed and apparently resembled what 
Harry saw in the mirror, but the others could be complete 
fabrications, constructed with physical characteristics that Harry 
would attribute to members of his family. 

Bringing this post back to Troels' point that if Harry sees himself 
surrounded by dead family members it may mean that he will end up 
dead with them, I think we can prove nothing. Since The Mirror Lies, 
these people may not be dead or may not have ever lived, other than 
in Harry's hopeful imagination. We certainly cannot make any 
conclusions regarding Harry's mortality based on this.

~ Constance Vigilance, who knew she couldn't write a post without 
mentioning Quirrell at least once.