[HPforGrownups] Re: Ron as Prefect (was: Chapter Discussion...)

[Troels Forchhammer]

No: HPFGUIDX 88754

At 23:16 14-01-04 +0000, Susan Miller wrote:

>Then Troels noted:
>
> > In which case, for consistency's sake (and IMO) Harry seeing himself
> > surrounded by his family must mean that he'll die as that is is the
> > only way this image can come true ...
> >
> > Or perhaps the Mirror, as Dumbledore /explicitly/ tells us " this
> > mirror will give us neither knowledge or truth."
> >
>
>Constance Vigilance (me):
>
>Ah! My OTHER controversial theory, first described some time ago as
>The Mirror Lies. Thank you, Troels, for pointing out the canonical
>proof that The Mirror Lies:

You're welcome ;-)


>Bringing this post back to Troels' point that if Harry sees himself
>surrounded by dead family members it may mean that he will end up
>dead with them,

I just want to add that I don't believe this myself. My point
was that /if/ Ron's image is claimed to be literal foreshadowing,
then, by extension, so should Harry's be. Since the only way this
could happen would be to have him die, that would be the logical
consequence of the claim of literal foreshadowing, IMO.

I believe that Dumbledore tells the truth about the Mirror - it
shows us what we desire most, and I also believe that Harry
retained some subconscious memories of his parents, which made
him imagine them (the persons he desired most to be among) as
they really looked. This might also be the case for some of the
other characters, but I agree that it is unlikely that he could
remember them all. As the Mirror not only doesn't /gives/ us
truth (it doesn't say that it can't tell us a truth we already
know), but also that it doesn't give us knowledge, I infer that
the images of the people that Harry didn't retain a buried
memory of, were actually misleading (otherwise Harry would have
gained - i.e. been given - knowledge about the appearance of
some of his family members).

/Troels