Perkins & the meaning of Warlock...

Steve bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 17 07:36:11 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 88977

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Christina Kopp <sophierom at y...>
wrote:
> Rolshan wrote:
> <Ah, Perkins, a mysterious fellow. No answers but
> questions: 
> 1. referred to as a warlock when all other male wizards are "wizards", 
> ...edited...


> 
> Carol wrote:
> <... No other character, IIRC, is referred to by that term. I always
> thought a warlock was just a male witch, but JKR seems to use 
> "wizard" in that sense. So what is a warlock by JKR's definition and
> how is he different from other wizards?>

> 
> Sophierom:
> 
> Perhaps JKR uses warlock to as a term of respect for older or more 
> experienced male wizards. Dumbledore is the Chief Warlock of the 
> Wizengamot, ...edited...
> 
> ... Maybe, then, being called in "old warlock" is more respectful 
> than saying he's an "old wizard."  
> 
> Whatever JKR means by warlock, the fact that she uses the term to 
> describe a seemingly insignificant character suggests to me that 
> she's hinting at some greater importance for Perkins.  ... With JKR,
> who knows? 
> 
> ...edited...
> 
> Sophierom

bboy_mn:

This did come up before and our conclusion was that we could really
reach no conclusion. See below...

>From Post...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/77875

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bboy_mn:

This is a question we dealt with recently, but without much resolution.


Tue Jul 29, 2003
Subject: Wizard or Warlock-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/73992
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/74078
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/74263
and post by many others on the subject.

It is quite clear that Harry knows a warlock when he sees one, and
they are generally characterized as a little rough and rowdy. I
speculated that it might be a regional/cultural distinction, but even
I admit that it is a little weak.

Points-

Warlock:
- Ernie Macillan can trace his ancestry back through 9 generations of
warlocks.
- there is both -
- - International Confederation of Wizards (SS4, GF17)
- - International Federation of Warlocks (PA3)
- Perkins, who is Mr. Weasley's assistant is a warlock.
- Dumbledore is Chief Warlock.
- in the Leaky Cauldron, Harry sees "wild-looking warlocks".
- In the Three Broomsticks, Harry sees a "bunch of rowdy warlocks".
(from HP Lexicon -
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/titles.html#Warlock 
Lots of good info on Warlocks here.)


Plus some info about Hags-

I think to draw any information on Hags we have to us formal
definitions and mythology.

Hag n. 1. An old woman considered ugly or frightful. 2.a. A witch; a
sorceress. b. Obsolete. A female demon (Am Heritage Dic)

I think the female demon is probably the most significant as I don't
think Hags are considered very nice people. In mythology, the only
thing I really know about Hags is that they typically eat children.

Note that the Hag in the Leaky Cauldron orders a plate of RAW liver.

Having said all that and what I said in my previous posts, I have to
add that I don't think we really know what the distinction is.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn






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