Perkins & the meaning of Warlock...
Steve
bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 17 07:36:11 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88977
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Christina Kopp <sophierom at y...>
wrote:
> Rolshan wrote:
> <Ah, Perkins, a mysterious fellow. No answers but
> questions:
> 1. referred to as a warlock when all other male wizards are "wizards",
> ...edited...
>
> Carol wrote:
> <... No other character, IIRC, is referred to by that term. I always
> thought a warlock was just a male witch, but JKR seems to use
> "wizard" in that sense. So what is a warlock by JKR's definition and
> how is he different from other wizards?>
>
> Sophierom:
>
> Perhaps JKR uses warlock to as a term of respect for older or more
> experienced male wizards. Dumbledore is the Chief Warlock of the
> Wizengamot, ...edited...
>
> ... Maybe, then, being called in "old warlock" is more respectful
> than saying he's an "old wizard."
>
> Whatever JKR means by warlock, the fact that she uses the term to
> describe a seemingly insignificant character suggests to me that
> she's hinting at some greater importance for Perkins. ... With JKR,
> who knows?
>
> ...edited...
>
> Sophierom
bboy_mn:
This did come up before and our conclusion was that we could really
reach no conclusion. See below...
>From Post...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/77875
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bboy_mn:
This is a question we dealt with recently, but without much resolution.
Tue Jul 29, 2003
Subject: Wizard or Warlock-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/73992
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/74078
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/74263
and post by many others on the subject.
It is quite clear that Harry knows a warlock when he sees one, and
they are generally characterized as a little rough and rowdy. I
speculated that it might be a regional/cultural distinction, but even
I admit that it is a little weak.
Points-
Warlock:
- Ernie Macillan can trace his ancestry back through 9 generations of
warlocks.
- there is both -
- - International Confederation of Wizards (SS4, GF17)
- - International Federation of Warlocks (PA3)
- Perkins, who is Mr. Weasley's assistant is a warlock.
- Dumbledore is Chief Warlock.
- in the Leaky Cauldron, Harry sees "wild-looking warlocks".
- In the Three Broomsticks, Harry sees a "bunch of rowdy warlocks".
(from HP Lexicon -
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/titles.html#Warlock
Lots of good info on Warlocks here.)
Plus some info about Hags-
I think to draw any information on Hags we have to us formal
definitions and mythology.
Hag n. 1. An old woman considered ugly or frightful. 2.a. A witch; a
sorceress. b. Obsolete. A female demon (Am Heritage Dic)
I think the female demon is probably the most significant as I don't
think Hags are considered very nice people. In mythology, the only
thing I really know about Hags is that they typically eat children.
Note that the Hag in the Leaky Cauldron orders a plate of RAW liver.
Having said all that and what I said in my previous posts, I have to
add that I don't think we really know what the distinction is.
Just a thought.
bboy_mn
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