[HPforGrownups] Perkins and the meaning of warlock in the HP universe

[Silverthorne Dragon]

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Sophierom:

(An odd  side note: practitioners of Wicca define warlocks not as male
witches but as traitors!  From my dim recollection of Perkins, he hardly
seems like a traitor, and since there is also the position of Chief Warlock
of the Wizengamot, I seriously doubt that JKR uses the Wiccan definition of
warlock


{Anne}

Also a side note on the use of the word 'Warlock' and a counter-claim. I am
pagan...started out in the Wiccan camp...and throughout everything I was
taught and learned, one of the things that was ingrained was that 'Warlock'
is actaully not one of the words we use, except in so far as it's used in a
standard dictionary....Male witches are still witches (although we will call
each other Wiccan (IE Wise one)--'witch' is reserved for...um....(gives a
crazy grin knowing how this will sound) you non-magical folk so that we
don't have to give a dissertation on why we use the other words...or don't
use them...). 'Bad' or "dark" witches (IE those stupid shits who practise
the rites to gain something for themselves, most often at the exspense, or
against the will, of another) we still call witches....we just try to avoid
them--because usually they're also the crazy ones that think things like The
'Necronomicon' is a real book of magic (and will attempt to use the material
within in thier own rites...)...that their favorite spirit guide is a demon
(and that they have perfect control over said 'demon'),  that they're the
re-incarnation of Jesus-Buddah-Mohammed-Black Elk-Cleopatra, etc....

Anyhow, the point is 'Warlock' is not a term used by modern witches...it is
actually a term made up by some 17th-18th century writer for one of his
horror stories, and the term stuck in the common mind ever since. As for who
it was...I'm drawing a blank right now...

 *I really miss my refernce books guys....anybody want to buy me a
library....?*

And, um, no...we don't have wands (Not in the Harry Potter sense anyway),
and 'magic' isn't all flashy (although some of our rituals can be....^^).
Magic, like any other form of 'prayer' to the God(s) takes time, intent,
will, and a lot of patience....not to mention a lot of cooperation from your
chosen diety....*winks*

Of course, I'm sure there's another wicca on this board somewhere who will
correct me on some things--we are also about as varied as any
religion....and we all have our own style...:)

Anne