Umbridges Motives (some spoilers)

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No: HPFGUIDX 89380

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Regina Olshan <rolshan2000 at y...>
wrote:
> 
> --- Dave <dk_manchester at h...> wrote:
> > After reading Order Of The Phoenix, (at least
> > twice), I cannot 
> > understand why, a senior ministry employee, like
> > Umbride, 
> 
> Now, Rolshan (me): 
> But think how incredibly helpful to V a murder of
> Harry Potter would have been. Or expelling Trelawney
> from the school where she is protected from DE's
> attempts to find out what the prophecy was or finding
> out about any new prophecies.
> 
> Also it seems clear that she knows about Hagrid's trip
> to the giants...in the Hagrid's Tale (or should it
> have been Hagrid's Tail as Galdriel Waters says?)
> chapter, she makes this clear with her references to
> the mountains, etc. Yet Hagrid thinks it was DE's
> tailing him and DEs dealing with the giants. So how
> did she find out? Was the ministry tailing him and mdm
> Olympe too, if so why on earth? Or did she know from
> DE's???????????????????//
> 
> ROLSHAN

Now me Vecsey:

I have just been listening to OOTP on tape (i read it and now i'm just
listening), but, I have come to the same conclustion about Umbridge
that she knew too much.  She tried to kick out ST and she did kick out
Hagrid, she implied Giants to Hagrid. While Harry is under the
invisibality cloak in Hagrids house, the first time Umbridge meets
Hagrid.  and WHY did she hate Trelayney so much?  She isn't a half
breed, it just didn't add up.  She was trying to kill Harry with the
dememtors, and she is (I think) in leage with LV.  

What did it for me was when she was going to use the Curcio on Harry
to get him to tell her who he was talking to in the fire in her
office.  She was enjoying herself.  She talked herself into it. Not
like the imperious curse where you do what you are told, No she was
having a really good time.  

Maybe old Lord Thingy had told her that she would still be in power at
the M of Magic and if she would just help him out a little bit.

I'm waiting for book 6.  I think there is going to be a day in court,
and I think THAT is how Arthur is going to get to be Minister of
Magic.  I think DU is going to bring down Fudge really quickly.  And
somehow, maybe Albus is going to suggest Mr. Weasley for the post!

Hummm can't wait to see.. Tj