All the protections in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
cmbrichards
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Sun Jan 25 08:47:26 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 89596
> Fred Waldrop:
> > Has anyone else thought that HRH were wrong about Sturgis
> > Podmore, and why he was sent to Azkaban for 6 months. (page 258 OotP UK)
> > Maybe he was sent into the DoM to destroy the Orb, but like DD,
> > LV was watching also, and had his DE alert the right people at the
> > right time to stop Podmore.
> > Until we find out more, we really do not know why Podmore was
> > trying to enter the DoM.
>
> > Whizbang :
> What I don't understand is why the Order would guard it at all.
> The only one besides Harry who can remove it is Voldy himself. So let
> the DE's try. What could happen? But if Voldy did decide to go
> get it himself, which of them could stop him? Harry and DD seem to be
> the only possibilities. Guarding Harry would have made more
> sense. Maybe that's why, the night Harry and Co went to "rescue" Sirius,
> no one was on guard duty. There was just no purpose to it.
>
Now Christal:
This is multilayered it seems. At first, Voldemort doesn't know he
cant have others remove it, and he is trying to send people through
the door.
My problem, as Dumbledore, would not be with "The Prophecy" itself,
as we know only Harry or Lord Voldemort can come for it, but with
his "Death Eaters" actually making it through those doors unchecked.
More lies in the DoMysteries than just those prophecies. How would
Dumbledore feel if a load of Death Eaters got their hands on say, a
few dozen or so time-turners? Or maybe stumbled across the door
to "That Special Room" and crossed that threshold? Then you have to
think about Harry. Dumbledore suspects from the beginning of OotP
that Voldemort is trying to influence Harry, and has this guard over
him while he is staying with the Dursley's. Obviously one is not
needed at 12 Grimmauld Place, as all the Order is in and out of there
anyway. But what to do about school?
He can't have members of the Order taking shifts at the school to
watch Harry because of Umbridge. (As to which I still have a question
about her.) So the next logical step, IMOP, would be to keep the
guard at the MoM where most of these people work anyway. Because face
it, when the chit hits the fan, the respond barely in the nick of
time. What if they hadn't been watching? This just seems like a
logical move on Dumbledore's part to me. Kinda like
chess....Positioning his players...
Now my question about Umbridge:
The first 10 times I read this book (OotP), I seemed to have not
registered this part. On page 275 of the American Version, Umbridge
is examining Harry's hand the final time.
"Let's see if you've gotten the message yet, shall we?" said
Umbridge's soft voice half an hour later.
She moved toward him, stretching out her short be-ringed fingers for
his arm. And then, as she took hold of him to examine the words now
cut into his skin, pain seared, not across the back of his hand, but
across the scar on his forehead. At the same time, he had a most
peculiar sensation somewhere around his midriff.
Now realizing that all throughout the book we are led to assume that
this had nothing to do with Umbridge really, but just happened to
coincide with Harry being here with her, I am not too sure now. I
hadn't really registered what they where saying in that last sentence
until now. When reading this tonight, this struck me plainly as
arousal. A sick and twisted type. Almost as though Voldemort got
turned on by this woman. So then I would have to say, is Umbridge
something to Voldemort. Maybe a past girlfriend or brief affair? This
is just an odd statement to make in this passage. Especially
combining it with the scar. I don't know...Thoughts anyone?
Christal
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