SHIP: Harry and Hermione Foreshadowing in PoA movie?

pandrea100 pandrea100 at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 5 07:51:22 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 104449

> mayeaux45 wrote:> > First of all Alfonso decides for a close up 
shot on Hermione 
> > whenever Harry comes down stairs to greet them while staying at 
> the 
> > Leaky Cauldron.  

I don't specifically remember the shots in this scene, but film 
making simply doesn't work like this.  The director chooses close ups 
based on either dialogue or the framing of the shot dependent on the 
location.  In that cramped set, shot from above, it probably just 
made better aesthetic sense.

> Second, Alfonso so cleverly puts an homage to Y 
> tu 
> > Mama Tambien in the movie by having the three young stars console 
> > each other at the execution of Buckbeak.  Note: Harry is 
consoling 
> > Hermione and Hermione is holding on to Ron, but who is Ron 
> > consoling...?  No one!  Before I go on, let me just add that 
there 
> > are some clues to Ron and Hermione as well, but we're focusing on 
> > Harry and Hermione at this particular time.

Well, why?  I think this scene shows the exact opposite.  In a 
situation where she is really upset, Hermione turns instinctively to 
Ron for comfort.  Anyway, a reference to Y Tu Mama Tambien actually 
backs up a Harry/Ron affair more than anything else - that film shows 
that the two guys really want to be with each other, not the woman - 
and I highly doubt that was the intention of this scene!
  
> > Moving on... The third clue is when Alfonso has Hermione fall 
onto 
> > Harry when entering the Whomping Willow tree (that's not in the 
> > books)! 

I suppose, but I don't think it's significant.  It's just the way 
they finish that action sequence.

> Clue Four, Harry and Hermione are holding each other's 
> hands 
> > at many points in the movie (even at times when it is not 
needed...
> > Ex: going up the stairs to the Shrieking Shack, running through 
> the 
> > forests, and so on)!!!!  

Again, I see it the other way entirely.  It's not a big deal for them 
to hold hands, because they're only friends.  But when Hermione and 
Ron accidentally touch, it's awkward and charged with tension because 
there is attraction there.

> > Clue Five, the music that was chosen for each scene is amazing.  
> > Alfonso is known for his attention to detail.  When Harry and 
> > Hermione were sitting down waiting for 'themselves' to come out 
of 
> > the whomping willow, the imagery and music that was playing was 
> > really "magical" (almost romantic?) The camera pans from the 
birds 
> > that were flying from the sky towards Harry and Hermione sitting 
> > under the tree.  

Well.  That's an interpretation and I think you're stretching it here.

> Clue Six, Hindsight is 20/20...think about that! 
> > (The Time Turner)...draw your own conclusions about this one. 

I'm not sure what you mean.
 
> Clue 
> > Seven, the position in which Harry and Hermione were sitting 
> > underneath the tree.  Hermione was sitting slightly behind 
Harry.  
> > The way in which she looked at him was foreshadowing all on its 
> own.

Foreshadowing of her, what, looking up at him again?  

> > 
> > NOTE: I'm also a fan of Ron/Hermione, so I'm not really biased 
> with 
> > the whole Harry/Hermione relationship!  Just wanted all you R/Hr 
> > fans out there to know that.  But you have to admit...the clues 
> are 
> > there (in the movie and especially after OotP).  Let me know what 
> > you think!  

I don't think the clues are there at all.  But ironically, I don't 
actually care if it turns out in the books that Harry and Hermione do 
get together.  I will be very surprised but won't mind at all.  In 
fact, I think there's sometimes too much silliness talked about such 
young teenagers deciding on their future partners for life so early.  
It's as if people can't conceive of someone having more than one 
boyfriend/girlfriend in their life. There is no absolute need to pair 
everyone up and marry them off, but again, I'm sure I'll probably 
like whatever JK does with them as she has handled this sort of thing 
(Ginny's casual boyfriends, Harry and Cho fizzling out) well so far. 






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