Kreacher the Murderer (Re: Sirius revisited--emotional maturity)

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 104531

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda M." 
<Agent_Maxine_is at h...> wrote:
> EXCELLENT post, Valky! And if I may go off-track for a second, 
your name reminds me of Victor Krum for some reason, lol 
(Hermione: "Don't call him 'Vicki!' "). You good at Soccer?
> 

Thanks Bren! I actually do feel quite kindred to Krum as a matter of 
fact, but I don't play soccer. I am Aussie and nearly 30 now so my 
youth has preceded the soccer revolution here. I play Rugby.
 
> >>> Valky wrote:
> > Some time ago it was supposed that Kreacher was implementing a 
plot to get rid of Sirius a long time before he left Grimmauld Place 
to the Malfoy residence. The canon that supports this is in 
congruent elements scattered through OOtP.

> Bren now:
> 
> Let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that there's more to 
> Sirius loathing Kreacher? Like Sirius resented him *not just* for 
the long history between them, but because Kreacher was doing 
something to him during his stay at Grim-Old Place in OoP? But if 
Sirius had suspected something, why didn't he do anything?
> 

Valky:
Well......... not really. but it brings me to my argument as to why 
a befuddlement draught is even more applicable to this scenario.
 
You're suggesting that Sirius is very smart and quick to notice 
things that don't seem quite right.

And I absolutely whole heartedly agree with you!!!

I have gathered my Sirius blueprints together in my thoughts and 
this is one aspect of his character that really sticks out. He is 
remarkably quick off the mark! 
When I imagine all the Marauders together and consider their roles 
in their group I am certain that Sirius was extraordinarily 
intelligent, in fact somewhat in Hermione's league I think. 

{By the way. I see James as having been highly gifted but a bit of a 
dunderhead a bit like Ron, and Lupin as someone who's stand out 
feature is his inner strength like Harry.
Of course they are their own people essentially and the analogies 
are just to help draw the picture. 
I don't for a second believe JKR created the same group of people 
twice. In fact I think that it is an extra good imitation of life, 
in that people with these very characteristics seem to attract each 
other and get along well.}

Ok enough straying back to the point. So Sirius is very very 
intelligent, the kind of person who would notice if someone was 
plotting against him. And of all people who would know that best but 
one who raised him and cared for him through his life, ie Kreacher. 

So saying, I suspect that if say Hermione's dad was trying to keep a 
secret from her he would, of all people, know that he was in for a 
very hard time doing and he, of all people, would have the best idea 
how to actually do it and be probably successful.

I think that Kreacher chose a 'befuddlement' draught because it gave 
him precisely the result he needed. 
One it would push Sirius over the edge to endanger his life 

and Two because by befuddling Sirius he was giving himself the best 
chance of success against Sirius' keen observation and intelligence. 

I am pretty sure that, even so, throughout it all Kreacher would 
have still been quite scared that Sirius would figure it out because 
he was so smart.

 

>More Valky:
 > I could go on, now, about how JKR must know how guilty she is of 
> > allowing Kreacher to steal most of our last moments with Sirius 
> from us. 
> >
> > And that SAD DENIAL has a right to a SIRIUS RESSURRECTION 
because 
 
> Bren: YES! Although I believe we'll get a full blast of much 
happier and fuller Sirius (face-wise) in Book 6 & 7!! JKR owes us 
that much, after you-know-what at DoM... (well she doesn't owe us 
anything  really, but one can only hope...)
> 


Valky:
Yes I am sure we will. Though, you're right she doesn't really owe 
us, I personally love Sirius and I am proud to be doing my part to 
hold the Marauders fort against the ESE and 'just plain stupid' tide 
especially since the pensieve scene in OOtP.

But until HBP and the 7th book are here to redeem the boys it is my 
solemn duty to protect their reputation and esteem through my 
continued support of the SPL.