Sirius revisited--emotional maturity (Very long)
demetra1225
tzakis1225 at netzero.com
Tue Jul 6 20:17:26 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 104655
Boy, it's been a long weekend. I come back and find myself over 500
messages behind. I should probably be catching up on all the posts,
but for some reason (can I claim Imperius?) I feel compelled to
respond to some of the posts on the Sirius thread. I'm going to try
to reply to a few different issues in the same post, so I apologize
for the length.
I'm paraphrasing but someone asked why bother picking apart the
characters. I look at it this way we have been handed a number of
pieces to a puzzle, but not enough to figure out the picture yet. So
we dig into existing canon and it is like peeling an onion under
each layer is another. As I try to fit the pieces together, I look
at the characters and how they fit in. What is their role? What is
their backstory? What is their motivation?
Of course, each of views the characters through a filter of our own
experiences and perceptions. I'm going to explain my
personal "filter" at the end of this post, but for now I'll say that
I believe that JKR intends us to see Sirius as a "good guy". I think
that his life is tragic. He was raised with wealth and privilege but
had a terrible mother, so I assume he had a less than ideal family
life. He suffered greatly as an adult, losing his friends (surrogate
family), was falsely imprisoned for 12 years. He is likely depressed
and perhaps even occasionally loses touch with reality. I have a
great deal of sympathy for his character, even though I don't really
like him. I'm going to try to explain why I have a problem with his
character and respond to some of the issues others have raised.
Jocelyn wrote in post #104145
[snip] I read a scientific article recently which said that there is
a region of
the brain which engages when considering consequences. This develops
at
different rates in different people, but generally is finished
developing in
most young women by their late teens, however in many males it may not
develop until the late 20s. Obviously there is a spread in individual
development which you may imagine finishes later in the male
population.
Demetra:
I haven't read that particular article, but I don't think the concept
is particularly new. In an Adolescent Psychology course I took in
college, and we're talking early 80's, we had a lengthy class
discussion on whether the age for obtaining a driver's license should
be raised to 18 for males since their impulsivity often results in
very poor choices when driving resulting in high accident rates for
teen males.
But I think we need to keep in mind what this fact does not mean. It
does not mean that teen/young adult males do not know right from
wrong or that they cannot control their impulses at all. If that
were the case, one could argue that every male prisoner under age 30
should be released because they weren't to blame for their actions.
Remember too, impulsivity is a split second thing. It is the
decision to pull out in front of that car going 70mph. But when you
have the time to think about an action, then you can't blame
impulsiveness for it.
This is why I have a problem with the argument that Sirius was simply
acting like a typical impulsive teen with the Prank. It is clear
that he knows that a werewolf is dangerous. Besides being friends
with and running with Lupin, we know that he has learned about
werewolves in class before the prank. In the penseive scene in OotP
we learn that there were questions about werewolves on the DADA OWL.
I can see no way that he didn't know that Snape could have been
killed. And if it was an impulsive act that caused him to send Snape
to the Shack in the first place, he had time to re-think his actions,
but he didn't. He had enough time to tell James and for James to go
and save Snape. It is this callous disregard for Snape's life, and
for Lupin who is his friend, that I have a problem with. Plus the
fact that he never seems to show any remorse for his action. The only
response we ever hear from Sirius about the event was that Snape
deserved it. Even if we are shown in future books that Severus
something horrible to Sirius that Sirius thought his actions were
justified, what about Lupin?
Katie wrote in her post # 104168
[snip] Then why place so much importance on Sirius'
behavior in the Pensieve scene? I don't think he comes out too much
worse in that memory than anyone else (except Lily, of course.)
Demetra:
I place importance on the whole Pensieve scene because it is, as far
as I know, the only canon evidence of the dynamic between MWPP, with
a side of Lily and Snape. Someday I hope to pick apart the whole
scene because I think it is packed with information and insights into
each of the characters. As a quick rundown though, I think we see
that James and Sirius were the ringleaders. They clearly have a
close friendship, perhaps even bringing out the best and worst in
each other. Peter is shown as a hanger-on, maybe even desperate to
be friends with these two cool guys. James seems to enjoy the
attention. Sirius dismisses Peter with a rather cruel comment about
Wormtail wetting himself. Sirius then also dismisses Lupin by
telling him essentially, I don't need to study so why should I bother
to help you study? In both situations Sirius is coldly dismissive of
his friends.
Sherry Gomes wrote in her post # 104180
[snip] About his teasing Lupin, well, I am disabled. I am blind. My
best friends can make teasing cracks to me, and it is funny. [snip]
I am quite sure that Lupin never minded Sirius teasing him. [snip]
Demetra:
Perhaps when they were talking about the werewolf questions on the
OWL. But not in the following passage:
"I'm bored," said Sirius. "Wish it was full moon."
"You might," said Lupin darkly from behind his book. (OotP, page
645)
No, I think that Lupin did mind Sirius' comment. Why else would he
reply "darkly". I think it was a thoughtlessly cruel comment on
Sirius' part, perhaps one of those impulsive outbursts. But notice,
even when Lupin calls him on it, there is no apology. I don't even
think Sirius caught on that he was being obnoxious.
I'm going to make only one more comment before my fingers start
cramping and I put anyone who has read this far to sleep. I said I
would explain how I personally look at the Pensieve scene and the
Prank. I have a 9 year old son who has ADD and has a learning
disability. He has been on the receiving end of some schoolyard
bullying because of "what he is". As any Mom will attest, each and
every instance when your child is hurt is like a knife through your
heart. So when I look at the Pensieve scene, I put my son in Lupin's
place and I can't see Sirius as anything but an arrogant, self-
centered jerk. And when I think of the Prank, I put my son in
Snape's place (even though my son probably has the kindest un-
Snapelike heart you can imagine) or Lupin's place and I can't fathom
Sirius' casually shrugging off what could have meant death for both
Snape and Lupin.
Demetra
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