Sirius revisited--emotional maturity

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 104839

SSSusan:  
> I didn't put as much weight on the "I'm bored.  I wish it were a 
> full moon" comment to Lupin as you did **but** the fact that he 
> doesn't say "Sorry" or even "Oh, yeah" when Lupin darkly 
> responds "YOU might" DOES say something about Sirius' essential 
> nature.  In these situations [and I'd add the goading-Harry-in-the-
> fireplace one to the prank & the pensieve scene], he's arrogant and 
> full of himself; he thinks of what will bring HIM fun & pleasure, 
> not what others need or want.
> 
Ally:
> Ah, but Sirius has his shortcomings as an adult, too, doesn't he?  
> He says himself that you can tell a person by the way he behaves to 
> those who are inferior to him and turns around and abuses his house 
> elf.  A cruel thing.  He allows Snape's head to bang around when 
> transporting him - a petty thing.  Even as an adult, he makes no 
> apologies for the "prank" despite the fact that it endangered Snape 
> and Remus, another petty thing.  

Amey:
> First question, was their friendship so formal that he needed to 
> say sorry? And just for a simple comment? If I remember right, he 
> said sorry to Lupin in Shack for believing him to be a spy. That 
> was a much seriuos thing, and it needed some comment after 12 
> years. But I don't think Sirius was thinking of anything else 
> except fun and adventure full moon brought. And of course Lupin 
> didn't take it that seriously himself. 


SSSusan:
Just a quick comment.  I guess my take is that formality isn't the 
key.  Having never bought the "Love means never having to say you're 
sorry" line from Love Story, I think CLOSE friends need to say "I'm 
sorry" absolutely just as much as those in a more formal 
relationship.  

I DO agree that believing Lupin to have been a traitor is a MUCH 
bigger deal than this offhand full moon remark, and if Sirius did 
say "I'm sorry" then [anybody got PoA handy?--I'm at work], that was 
an important admission.

Siriusly Snapey Susan...who has no intention of dropping 
the "Siriusly" from her handle but who doesn't mind considering his 
flaws either. :-)