Dumbledore and Sirius
Amey Chinchorkar
sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Thu Jul 8 17:22:19 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 105088
>> Paul:
>> My friend you are right. Something is wrong with DD in general. I am
>> sure that he is hiding a lot more than that he divulged to HP at the
>> end of OOTP. <snip> If I were HP I wouldn't
>> trust DD so easily.
>> Del:
>> At the
>> end of GoF, when DD is giving out his orders to various people, he
>> doesn't give them any sentimental support speech first. It's just "you
>> go there, you do that". The only one he's worried about is Snape, but
>> even then DD doesn't go emotional.
Amey:
Sorry Paul for snipping your lines about everyone having his/her own agenda. It is at least sure in case of Dumbledore.
Del, that scene reminds me of Sherlock Holmes (sorry for parallel literature, but he is one of my favourites). He never tells anybody his plan till last. And that is bcause he is afraid that many people knowing might ruin it, because people are not as logically thinking as he, that is to say they don't see the outcomes he does. I see Dumbledore working under same premise here. There is no time to explain, also what he has always seen coming has finally materialized (and he is quick to take command). All this shows me what a great General he is. Never letting down the guard even when the enemy is down, always believing in people and their abilities, never surprised by anything, and taking command the second danger beckons. He never shows his leadership overtly till the time it is necessary, but when it is needed, he expects (and gets in case of rational people) total obedience.
Oh yes, almost forgot one thing, admitting his mistakes.
hats off to Dumbledore. I would advice harry to closely follow Dumbledore's words and keep faith (not blind) in him.
>> Del replies :
>> Sirius chose to have Peter be Secret Keeper rather than himself.
>> Sirius chose to track down Peter on his own rather than tell the story
>> and gather help (and how did he find Peter anyway ?) <snip>
>> Del replies :
>> Because Sirius sent Snape to the Shack, and James risked his own life
>> to get Snape back from the Shack in time. Sirius sent Snape to his
>> death, James saved Snape's life at the potential price of his own life.
Amey here:
For those choices, he took the responsibility and was sorry for his wrong choices. He says so in Shack. As for his tracking Peter on his own, he couldn't have done anything else without Peter's confession. (Read my post about this, "Some serious thoughts about Sirius". I have alraedy given full description about that, if I repeat it here, list elves will kill me :)).
Also, some quotes from OoT, "Snape's Worst Memory":
Snape reacted so fast it was as though he had been expecting an attack: dropping his bag, he plunged his hand inside his robes and his wand was halfway into the air when James shouted, 'Expelliarmus!' <snip>
But too late; Snape had directed his wand straight at James; there was a flash of light and a gash appeared on the side of James's face, spattering his robes with blood. James whirled about: a second flash of light later, Snape was hanging upside-down in the air, his robes falling over his head to reveal skinny, pallid legs and a pair of greying underpants. <snip>
'Certainly,' said James and he jerked his wand upwards; Snape fell into a crumpled heap on the ground. Disentangling himself from his robes he got quickly to his feet, wand up, but Sirius said, 'Petrificus Totalus!' and Snape keeled over again, rigid as a board. <snip>
Ok, I accept I have left the part about Sirius and James both attacking Snivellus, but doesn't this show you that Snape was equally, in fact more ready to hurt them. He took out his wand first, it was he who caused any bodily harm, (note other spells don't cause any hurt other than what you will get if you fall on ground). Ok, James' spell was a torture, but not Sirius.
I wonder if Snape had Sirius set up to go to Shack, he would have moved a finger to save him. And we are not entirely sure what Sirius was doing when James saved Snape. Remember in PoA, Snape was arguing for Dementors to kiss Sirius, which I am sure is more horrible than death.
That brings me again to the same question, give me one example of Sirius being a bully, a risk to himself and others, all together, a dangerous person? (and please don't give me his seeting up Snape).
Also one more point I would like to add here, how objective is penceive? (I know, this has been discussed many times, but we don't have any canon of it's level of subjectivity or objectivity)
I think tagging of Sirius as "Prisoner" has left him branded for life and now he is no longer alive, he cannot even redeem himself.
Amey
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