Sirius and Percy... also HBP (was: Re: Dumbledore and Sirius; Percy Weasly; Defending Percy; Slytherin as HBP)

[mommystery2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 105292

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Amey Chinchorkar" > 
 
> >> Ces
> >> I read that to mean that both James and Sirius had already 
attacked 
> >> Snape in the past and he was almost always prepared now.  Two 
against 
> >> one certainly shows (to me at least)who are the real cowards and 
> >> bullies here.<snip>
> >> Sirius was a risk to himself at Grimmauld Place - he was sitting 
> >> around with little to do, apparently feeling sorry for himself, 
which 
> >> is a very dangerous thing to do and can lead to impulsive 
acts...such 
> >> as running off to the Ministry, instead of staying put like he 
was 
> >> supposed to.  Instead he rushes off to save Harry, who himself 
> >> doesn't think ahead and gets Sirius in trouble.<snip>
> >> I think a pensieve is objective - it seems to show events as 
they 
> >> happened, without editing. It's a memory of that person's 
version of 
> >> what happened.
> 
> Amey:
> What gave you impression that "both" James and Sirius had picked 
fight with him? It is nowhere mentioned that they *both* attacked him 
at the same time even once in the whole scene. Also, we know that he 
attacked James when he was not watching him, and could have done 
again if Sirius hadn't stepped in. Here nobody is coward (I agree not 
even Snape) because it was always a fair fight, one-to-one, the other 
person stepping in if somebody tried to attack his friend from 
behind, which is not at all fair. I don't mean to say that it redeems 
James for what he did, but nobody in that scene (including Snape) 
except Lily comes out as a good character. 
> 
> Also in GP, Sirius wasn't sitting around doing nothing, he had 
nothing to do. He couldn't go out and work. He was feeling sorry for 
himself for that, which was further fueled by Snape. (Remember, he 
did not take the same suggestion from Fred/George seriuosly because 
he knew they didn't mean it.) Snape was goading him, he knew the 
situation fully, still he was teasing Sirius. You can't expect 
anybody to take this. As for rushing to MoM, that was because he 
loved Harry and he could not stay put when Harry was in danger. Of 
course Harry was wrong in going ahead without thinking, but then 
that's a different issue. And also, remember who told Sirius to stay 
put? It is Snape, so I am sure he 
> must have made it sound pretty *sweet* for Sirius to hear.

Even if it was Snape who told Sirius to stay put, there had to have 
been other members of the Order he could have checked with before 
rushing off.  I'm sure they all have ways of getting in touch with 
each other in an emergency.

And I believe it was Sirius who started the whole bit at Grimmauld 
Place when Snape told Harry to sit down.  That was a situation 
between a teacher and a student and Black disrupted it and Snape 
responded.  Both acted immaturely.
 
> And as for penseive, if it shows "a memory of that person's version 
of what happened.", it's pretty subjective, and the scene might even 
be different. (Has anyone here heard that mind changes especially 
painful memories? That is a part of pshycological defence. SOrry to 
go off topic, I am not suggesting that it *is* the case here, but it 
might be.)