Snape going back? (was: Snape's Destiny/JKR quotes)

slgazit slgazit at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jul 9 19:47:39 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 105295

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman"
<susiequsie23 at s...> wrote:
> [SSS:
> I pulled one statement out & put it at the top to argue a point, 
> Salit; hope you don't mind.]

No. :-)

[ Regarding the deteriorating relationship between Harry and Snape ]

> But I suspect that, in spite of his stubborness and his protestations 
> at the end of OoP, Harry *will* begin to really HEAR DD's words about 
> Snape in book 6 (or book 7).  Don't get me wrong, I don't think 
> there's any chance in the world that they'll ever be buddies, but I 
> think at some point a partial, grudging respect will appear from 
> Harry for Snape.

The primary reason for the bad blood between Harry and Snape is
Snape's attitude towards him. Snape hates Harry even before he has
exchanged a single word with him. He humiliates him in the first
potions class for no reason at all. While Harry may have contributed,
it was certainly a reaction to Snape's attitude. It has been mentioned
several times how Snape never fails to denigrate Harry's work or Harry
himself each time he passes his caulderon during potions, and this has
been going on since the first lesson (remember Harry had points taken
off by Snape for something he did not do).

There is no sign whatsoever that Snape has changed his attitude or
feelings, nor have we seen any evidence that Snape can ever become
"nice" or understanding. His continuous putdowns of Sirius Black in
OoP are a case in point. One would have thought that he could show
some compassion to a man imprisoned in the worst type of prison in the
world for 12 years for a crime he did not commit. But Snape still
carries the same gripes and vindictiveness he has shown as a teen. I
am not saying he is evil, only that he completely lacks in empathy and
compassion or maturity.

Harry will mature and he is certainly a caring and compassionate
person. But for any type of reconciliation between them, Snape has to
show personal qualities that I doubt very much he will ever possess.

>  If Harry doesn't achieve an OWL with sufficiently 
> high marks to be taken into Snape's 6th year Potions class, it just 
> might provide just the break from Snape that Harry needs to get 
> BEYOND Snape's treatment of him in class just a bit.

Harry will be in Snape's potions class, otherwise the whole story will
lack some of the best scenes in the story, but I don't believe he will
get an "O" in potions, I think it will be an "E". Snape will have to
lower his standards. Either the authorities will decide to lower entry
requirements for auror positions (as they are in a war situation) or
perhaps Draco Malfoy will also not get an "O", forcing Snape (who
wants him in his class) to accept Harry as well. One thing I am
certain of is - there will be no improvement in their relationship in
book 6...

>  But I actually think his "friendship" 
> and "loyalty" to Lucius are a put-on, and I think that he is closer 
> to certain members of the Hogwarts staff [McGonagall, for instance] 
> than many people seem to believe. *I* don't think Snape will go 
> back.

I think he respects McGonnagal, but there is no indication of
"closeness" with anyone, except Draco Malfoy (who can come into his
office at will and is addressed by first name).
  
Salit
(looking forward to more nasty Snape/Harry confrontations :-))






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