Lucius, James and Sirius
Amey Chinchorkar
sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Sat Jul 10 10:33:47 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 105466
>> Alla:
>> I am sorry to be annoying, but I am still confused. To make a long
>> story short, I guess, my question will be:
>> Who is expecting Snape to act unfair, abusive,(whatever) to Harry?
>> If your answer is Voldemort, my next question will be Why?
Amey:
Maybe Malfoy, because he seems to be the ring-leader of the remaining DEs. And after all, some scars never heal. Harry is the son of one of his worst enemis ever and godson of another.
>> Carol responds:
>> Most likely LV kept
>> Peter's identity a secret from all but his most trusted DEs. Lucius
>> and Bellatrix may have known, <snip>
Amey:
The prisoners in Azkaban knew all right, because Sirius heard them cursing him thinking him to be the cause of The Downfall.
>> Angie:
> I wonder how Lucius gained possession of Voldemort's diary in the
> first place. If he got it from Voldemort, who knows what other
> things of Voldemort's Lucius has hidden? Does this not suggest
> that Lucius is VERY close to Voldemort? <snip>
Amey:
As I said, he seems to be the ring-leader. How he came across it is a mystery, especially since he could never be one of "most intimate friends" of Tom who was with Tom in school. Also, he is supposed to think of "A plot to make most terrible things happen at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry this year". With whom? Crabbe and Goyle it can't be if their sons are any indication. Also why "this year"? I mean he could do it earlier. In that year there were no special signals that LV was coming back. Is it just because JKR thought? Or is there anything else special happening that year? Any people thinking of Ginny here?
I think Malfoy needs to be kept under watch (I hear many people saying I told you so.:))
>> KB responds:
>> Did 11-year-old Tom Riddle buy the wand and Ollivander know TR turned into
>> LV (how? I don't think this was common knowledge -- I might be reading
>> things wrong, but even DD only suspected the connection before CoS?)
Amey:
Dumbledore knew it long before that. He says "Hardly anyone connected Lord Voldemort with the clever, handsome boy who was once Head Boy here." So he knew the connection, and obviously seeing that fawkes is his pet (I am assuming he had Fawkes then also), he must be notified when Tom picked the first wand (as with Harry). Of course that points ot Fawkes having some more history than just Dumbledore (and we have some theories for that). Anyone for Fawkes as HBP? :)
>> Carol
>> As for Lupin, who of course isn't an animagus and certainly wouldn't
>> have a werewolf Patronus, I think we don't see his Patronus because he
>> can't quite cast one, DADA instructor or not. All we see on both his
>> attempts is a bright light from his wand. Not particularly good with
>> potions or he wouldn't rely on Snape, not as good as his friends at
>> Transfiguration or he wouldn't have to study for the O.W.L., <snip>
Amey:
He was able to ward off dementor on the train, so he can produce Patronus ("when it works correctly, It conjures up a Patronus".) I think just wisp of smoke is not powerful enough. We have some proof of that. Even we don't know what form Dumbledore's Patronus takes? I suggest they are so powerful that it just whooshes at great speed instead of charging, (something like
supersonic fighter.. hey that's an interesting idea for Patronus). And we know he is powerful enough to cast spells without saying them out loud.
As for the potion, it is complicated, it is not his speciality and Snape is Potions Teacher, as he reminds us. About transfiguration, we don't have any canon there, but given his history he must be good, if not brilliant.
As for studying, I hear many people crying Hermione here, so I won't say it again.
Do I hear the start of Lupin-bashing here?
>> Carol
>> <snip> Snape fans (not apologists,
>> please: he's not Voldemort) to defend him.
Amey:
Point taken. I am one of the persons who don't like Snape, but believe him just evil, not dark.
As for other point (naming Sirius as Black, to make both of them equal), I think that is the crux of the story. He is Sirius (always referred to by first name, denoting affection), the guardian of Harry, the highly loyal friend and godfather. Snape is last name, given respect (maybe because of him being teacher, maybe fear for his dark powers, maybe because "nobody loves him" to call him affectionately). Except Dumbledore, nobody calls him by first name, but he calls everybody by first name.
>> Valky:
>> Sirius certainly
>> seemed to believe so and I think Sirius psyche is our strongest link
>> to the truth about this incedent.
Amey:
Bingo!!! He and Lupin are the only persons who can even remotely come close to say without any prejudice how he was. I know he was their friend and he is dead. But if neeeded they are saying he was a bit of "idiot" then and that will be taken as proper judgement. So I agree entirely.
Also one more point here, do you think Sirius can leave James alone to save Snape? (If not for noble purpose, I would have thought it as one more adventure.)
Also for Sirius fans, I have come up with one more point:
'Yeah,' said Harry, 'but he just attacked Snape for no good reason, just because - well, just because you said you were bored,' he finished, with a slightly apologetic note in his voice.
'I'm not proud of it,' said Sirius quickly.
Beat this, Sirius bashers!!!!
Amey, who thinks he has again started the Sirius Wars
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