Bertha, Florence, Frank, Alice, Bella, Rudolphus... and Snape?
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No: HPFGUIDX 105642
Neri, again answering his own post <note to self: must break this
habit> :
I've just found the canon proof that Bellatrix is older than Sirius
by 2 years. How, oh how could I miss it before??? Here it is:
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OotP, Ch. 6:
'Bellatrix and her husband Rodolphus came in with Barty Crouch
junior,' said Sirius, in the same brusque voice. 'Rodolphuss brother
Rabastan was with them, too.'
Then Harry remembered. He had seen Bellatrix Lestrange inside
Dumbledore's Pensieve, the strange device in which thoughts and
memories could be stored: a tall dark woman with heavy-lidded eyes,
who had stood at her trial and proclaimed her continuing allegiance
to Lord Voldemort, her pride that she had tried to find him after his
downfall and her conviction that she would one day be rewarded for
her loyalty.
'You never said she was your '
'Does it matter if she's my cousin?' snapped Sirius. 'As far as
I'm concerned, they're not my family. She's certainly not my family.
I haven't seen her since I was your age, unless you count a glimpse
of her coming into Azkaban. D'you think I'm proud of having a
relative like her?'
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Sooooo. Sirius didn't see Bella since he was 15, Harry's age in OotP.
That is, when Sirius was 15 (Year 5) it was Bella's last year in
Hogwarts. And Sirius is very specific about it. He doesn't mean he
didn't see her at the Black's house. He means he didn't see her even
at Hogwarts, because he includes even "a glimpse" in Azkaban as a
single exception.
So we already have:
Canon (1): Bella is two years older than the marauders, Lily and
Snape.
Canon (2): Bella, Rudolphus, Avery, Rosier, Wilkes, and Snape were in
a "gang of Slytherins" at school. All of them became DEs later.
Canon (3): Bertha was "a few years" older than the marauders too.
Canon (4): Bertha was "about 16" at the time of the kiss.
Canon (5): Rosier and Wilkes were killed by aurors, a year before
LV's fall.
Almost canon (6): Alice and Frank Longbottom were older than Lily and
James, to allow for 3 years of auror training before they had Neville.
>From 2 and 3 follows: Bella and Bertha were approximately the same
age (perhaps a year apart).
>From 6: Alice and Frank were also in this age group.
>From 1 and 2: Except for Snape, the rest of the "gang" could have
been in this age group too. Florence probably also.
>From 3 and 4: The marauders and Snape were at most 13 at the time of
the kiss. It is thus not probable that one of them was Florence's
kisser.
Prime suspects of kissing Florence and hexing Bertha are thus: Frank,
Rudolphus, Avery, Rosier, Wilkes.
>From 5 and 6: Frank and/or Alice could be involved, as aurors, in
killing Rosier and/or Wilkes.
And of course we have:
Canon (7): Bella and Rudolphus tortured Alice and Frank to insanity
after LV's fall, and were sent to Azkaban for it.
If all these things are not closely connected and of prime importance
to the plot, I'll resign my position as a speculator in HPfGU.
Neri
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