James the Berk?

delwynmarch delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 11 21:41:52 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 105665


Alla wrote :
> It is just as painful for me to agree with Del, honestly, but I have 
> to do it. :) Not fully , mind you, but still.

(An evil laughter can be heard in the background. "Yes, YES, I
*finally* got Alla to agree with me, and on a Snape subject too !! Ah
ah ! Ahahahahahahah !!! I am a GENIUS !!! *mad cackling*)

Alla wrote :
> Valky, I am positive that Pensieve scene had a HUGE backstory. I am 
> ready to bet ANYTHING that there was a very old feuld either between 
> James/or Sirius and Snape or their families.
> 
> I cannot exclude the possibility that either James and Snape or 
> Sirius and Snape were related and they knew each other really well 
> before they came to Hogwarts. 
> 
> I am also pretty sure that Snape's family knew Dark Arts and James 
> hated Dark Arts.
>  
> I will never convict James and Sirius as bad people based on this 
> scene alone, because really, if that was the worst thing they ever 
> done in life, they are still retty good people in my book.
>  
> Having said all that, there is nothing, NOTHING , which can justify 
> what James and Sirius did to Snape in that scene.

Del replies :
Hmm, now that you mention it, I realise that maybe I didn't make that
point clear enough : I was just discussing the Pensieve scene. I too
am fully convinced that there's a whole backstory. James and Snape
hated each other at least as much as Draco and Harry do. I know that.
It was only James' behaviour *in that one scene* that I was criticising.

Alla wrote :
> Now, if we will learn that pensieve is subjective 

Del replies :
We have no proof that a Pensieve memory is objective, but I would be
*thoroughly* disappointed to learn that it isn't, because it would
*undermine* the whole point of the Pensieve IMO. DD explained that he
puts his memories in the Pensieve in order to help himself find
patterns and links he couldn't find otherwise. But if those memories
are flawed because subjective to start with, then how can he expect to
make anything worthwhile out of them ? In my idea, the whole point of
putting them outside of his own head is precisely that it's easier to
observe them rationally this way, with an outsider's view, in other
words : objectively.

Alla wrote :
> If Lily started hexing Snape after that scene, that I would 
> understand really well.  (No, that was not JUST A NAME, that Snape 
> called her. To me, it indicates what kind of views that person holds. 
> And, NO, there are some views ,which even though person is allowed to 
> have, the person is not allowed to say them to other people, not just 
> act on them)

Del replies :
In my idea, *saying* the word is already *acting* on the racist
belief. A thought, a belief, a wish, all those are not real actions.
But a word is. A lesser kind of action maybe, but an action nonetheless.

Del







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