Hermione's Reaction to... Was: Re: Harry's first Kiss (is it a smoke screen?)

[mayeaux45]

No: HPFGUIDX 105683

> Mayeaux45:
> > Hermione is known for accepting people as they are (Ron and 
> > Harry included), even though she might have a great dislike 
> > for them. I don't think she would go through the "trouble" 
> > of trying to get Ron to change( or even Harry for that matter).

> Del replies :
> Except that she does. She offered the boys *homework planners* for
> Christmas, how much more loudly could she have stated that she
> expected them to change ?
> Moreover, it's very common for people in love to consciously accept
> their loved one in their entirety, but to reject some parts of 
> their personality unconsciously. 

Mayeaux45: Once again, only when it comes to academics is Hermione 
aggressive in her attempts to *help* the boys, not *change* them.  
And are you referring to Ron being in love with Hermione or vice 
versa.  Because even some die hard R/Hr shippers say that the love 
seems to be *one-sided* (mostly on Ron's part).  

> Del replies :
> My gut reaction was instantaneous and without thought too. I 
> reacted right along with Hermione, so that when she said it, I 
> was thinking it. It's just like hearing 2 people talking next to 
> you while you're reading a book, and then they start talking about 
> somenone but they can't remember their name, and you just give it
> to them without even looking up. It's automatic : no Harry, you're 
> not a bad kisser, nobody is, and Cho cries all the time anyway. I 
> understand that Hermione wouldn't mention the "nobody is a bad 
> kisser" part in front of Ron though :-)

Mayeaux45: 
That may be the case, but let's face it...this scene in 
OotP is *somewhat* important to figuring out the dynamic in R/Hr/H 
relationship.  It could go either way and unfortunately for us, we 
won't know for sure until books 6&7 come out!  But someone did make 
an interesting point on a post a couple of weeks ago.  JKR did say 
in response to the question 'Who does Hermione love...Ron or 
Harry?'  JKR responded "I can't believe you all haven't *worked this 
one out* yet.  But I'm not going to tell you because that would 
spoil the arguments, which I enjoy!"  (not sure if the quote is 
exact but I'm 99.8% sure that it is).  JKR says *worked out*...just 
for the sake of argument :) I'm just going to say "if Hermione and 
Ron's relationship is so obvious to some people then why would there 
be anything to *work out* at all!"  

JKR is a literary GENIUS IMO and she uses her words carefully when 
answering fans questions...she didn't say 'figure', or even 'obvious' 
she said 'worked out'.  Basically what I'm trying to say is that it's 
a *toss up* at this point with the who loves who scenario.  Right as 
of Book 5 Harry is the ONLY one in the trio that JKR hasn't written 
as having any clue or feelings of any kind having to do with anyone.  
Cho was pretty much a no-go as soon as she started talking badly about 
Hermione when her and Harry were talking in the hallway. 

> Del replies :
> You forgot that she has to go to the loos, which is the only other
> place, apart from meal times, that Hermione mentions. She does
> complete her sentence with "all over the place", but that could be
> either an exageration, or just something she heard Cho's friends
> whisper among themselves while Cho was crying in the loos.

Mayeaux45: Good point.  No argument there...