Hermione's Reaction to... Was: Re: Harry's first Kiss (is it a smoke screen?)

[delwynmarch]

No: HPFGUIDX 105726


Mayeaux45 :
> Once again, only when it comes to academics is Hermione 
> aggressive in her attempts to *help* the boys, not *change* them.  

Del replies :
Isn't that the usual *excuse* for people who are trying to change
others : "I'm just trying to help you" ?
And I disagree that Hermione is trying to change them only as far as
academics go. Just one example : Cho comes to Harry, and Ron attacks
her on her Tornado badge. Then Hermione berates Ron for being such an
insensitive person. Well, if she *really* accepted Ron for what he is,
she would *know* that he is insensitive (we all do, that's part of his
make-up), and she would *accept* that. She would maybe explain to him
*calmly* that he just did a mistake, but she wouldn't go berating him
like she did.

Mayeaux45 :
> And are you referring to Ron being in love with Hermione or vice 
> versa.  Because even some die hard R/Hr shippers say that the love 
> seems to be *one-sided* (mostly on Ron's part).  

Del replies :
Well, that *was* the starting supposition, wasn't it :-) ? That
Hermione was in love with Ron too. I'm not saying she is, I'm just
saying her behaviour is concordant with being in love with Ron and
cannot be used to prove that she loves Harry.

Mayeaux45 wrote : 
> JKR did say in response to the question 'Who does Hermione love...Ron
> or Harry?'  JKR responded "I can't believe you all haven't *worked 
> this one out* yet.  But I'm not going to tell you because that would 
> spoil the arguments, which I enjoy!"  (not sure if the quote is 
> exact but I'm 99.8% sure that it is).  JKR says *worked out*...just 
> for the sake of argument :) I'm just going to say "if Hermione and 
> Ron's relationship is so obvious to some people then why would there 
> be anything to *work out* at all!"  

Del replies :
The R/H shippers are not saying the relationship is obvious on both
sides, they agree that it is obvious only on Ron's sides. But they do
argue that the H/Hr relationship isn't obvious on neither side. In
both cases anyway, the relationship would have to be worked out.

Mayeaux45 wrote :
> JKR is a literary GENIUS IMO and she uses her words carefully when 
> answering fans questions...she didn't say 'figure', or even 'obvious' 
> she said 'worked out'.  Basically what I'm trying to say is that it's 
> a *toss up* at this point with the who loves who scenario. Right as 
> of Book 5 Harry is the ONLY one in the trio that JKR hasn't written 
> as having any clue or feelings of any kind having to do with anyone. 

Del replies :
Well, considering that we can't agree on it, I'd say that Hermione is
another one whose feelings are not obvious.

Mayeaux45 wrote :
> Cho was pretty much a no-go as soon as she started talking badly 
> about Hermione when her and Harry were talking in the hallway. 

Del replies :
Will it surprise you that I disagree :-) ? Cho was horribly jealous,
there's nothing wrong with that. If Harry had understood what was
going on and had reassured her accordingly, she would probably have
stopped talking about Hermione in that way. Jealousy, especially when
it is so rightfully founded, is not necessarily an obstacle. And if
H/Hr is indeed the way to go, then Cho was even *justified* in being
jealous !

Del, who's not a R/H shipper, but thinks it would be too unfair if
Hermione ended up with Harry... unless Ron finds another love interest
*first* !