How did Sirius lure Severus into the Willow? (was: James the Berk?)

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No: HPFGUIDX 105823

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda M." <Agent_Maxine_is at h...> wrote:
> 
> I can think of a situation where DD had to put some sense to Snape in 
> that DD had a power to reveal something of Snape that he didn't want 
> anyone else to know. DD perhaps told Snape of the "benefits" he would 
> get from keeping his mouth (or fingers) shut about Lupin. Maybe some 
> HPFG members are right in that Snape is in fact Vampire!Snape -- and 
> DD knows it, and strikes a deal with Snape (trying NOT to use the 
> word 'blackmail' but in a nut shell, it was): "SSSnivellus (sorry, my 
> bad) I have to be fair to all students. If I am to kick Remus out of 
> school then I must do the same to you."
> 
> Or Snape could have been another orphan staying at Hogwarts 
> throughout the summer (like Tom Riddle) and DD was about to take this 
> away from him if Snape didn't listen to him.
> 

Kneasy:
Oh, come now! No wishful thinking, please!
At least I am wondering how DD orchestrated a cover-up (shown as such
in canon - DD forbade Snape  ever to mention it) of an event also shown
 in canon as a major part of the back-story.
Inventing non-canon situations so that the story turns out the way you
want it to just won't do, I'm afraid. 
 
Brenda:
> As for Snape trusting DD -- I must take everthing as what it appears 
> to be, at face value. He *is* the greatest wizard of modern time as 
> considered by many, he is the only one who VM has ever feared, and he 
> gave Snape a second chance. In Occlumency chapter of OoP, it sounds 
> as though Snape fears DD even more than he does VM:
> 

Kneasy:
What second chance? DD *needs* Snape, he's the one, perhaps
the only one that can do what DD needs done for the Order.
And I  didn't say that Snape doesn't trust DD -  I asked how
could he after the cover-up at Shrieking Shack I. "What happened
to make Snape trust DD after that?" - that's my question.

> Brenda: 
> I have always regarded Dumbledore as kind of "divine character" in 
> Potterverse. A mortal character (with the human mischievious trait) 
> who resembles God. He is, after all, (appears to be) omniscient and 
> omnipotent, loving/caring/forgiving, eccentric, but expresses his 
> wrath of madness towards those who have been given enough chances.
> 

Kneasy:
Not I. He's shown too much fallibility to be omniscient and omnipotent.
Quirrell, Tom's Diary, the Basilisk, Crouch!Moody, the failure of the
Occlumency lessons, the inability to control or neutralise Umbridge;
the list is long and totally unbelievable for someone omniscient and
omnipotent. Unless of course, you  think it was all deliberate. Which
would mean that he was quite happy for a half-trained student to face
the second-most-powerful wizard in the world on totally unequal terms.
Not once, but three times.

Kneasy