[HPforGrownups] Re: James the Berk?

[Amber_ Falls]

No: HPFGUIDX 105911

  Del wrote :

 You're making two major assumptions with *no proof* here, Valky :-) No
 good, no good, won't convince me with that :-) First, you're assuming that James drew his wand when Snape drew his. I refute that by saying that you have no canon proof. And I go even further by saying that since James was *obviously*
 trying to pick a fight with Snape, it was only *logical* that he would *already* have his own wand out. Neither of us have canon to support our idea, but at least I have *logic* on my side ;-P And of course you also assume that Snape would have used some nasty curse straight away. No proof, no proof at all, says I !!
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Amber:

Anyway, to me what James did was taunt Snape or provoke him if you
like.So it isn't that obvious to me that James was
trying to pick up a fight.I agree we don't have canon
proof wether James had his wand out or not. But we see
a bit previous in the book (OOP brit.ver. page
567)that James have excellent reflexes while playing
with the snitch.It's not all that logical to assume
that James had his wand already out. He could have
been faster than Snape.


Del wrote :
We have no proof that a Pensieve memory is objective, but I would be
*thoroughly* disappointed to learn that it isn't, because it would
*undermine* the whole point of the Pensieve IMO. DD explained that he
puts his memories in the Pensieve in order to help himself find
patterns and links he couldn't find otherwise. But if those memories
are flawed because subjective to start with, then how can he expect to
make anything worthwhile out of them ? In my idea, the whole point of
putting them outside of his own head is precisely that it's easier to
observe them rationally this way, with an outsider's view, in other
words : objectively.



You know I've thought a lot about this. I don't think
a memory is objective. If you think about it logically
it can't be. It's something you experience in the past
and emotion does play a part in it.Ask anybody about a
past event. They might forget some details, but
they'll will remember exactly how they felt.So lets
not forget that this Snape memory. Yes Harry could
hear what his father and friends said, but the fact is
it's Snape's memory and no one else's. I think what DD
meant was by putting the memory in the pensive allowed
him to look at without the emotions that would go
along with it. He could look at it in a more detached
way. 

Just my 2 knuts

Cheers
Amber





	
		
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