[HPforGrownups] SHHermione's Reaction to... Was: Re: Harry's first Kiss

[udder_pen_dragon]

No: HPFGUIDX 106361



delwynmarch <delwynmarch at yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does, and not 
> as a last resort!" (GoF Am. ed. 432).

Udderpd commented :
> I believe that Hermione would have gone to the Ball with either Harry
> or Ron if either of them had asked her early on.

Del replies :
Let me nitpick, by saying that she didn't mention Harry. She said that
pointedly to Ron and Ron alone. Harry had entered the room by that
time, but she didn't round on Harry to shout at him too. Assuming that
she included Harry in her statement is just that : an assumption.
Truth is : she told *Ron* that she would have accepted his offer if he
had done it properly and in time.

Udderpd wrote :
> Hermione is distracted and mainly concerned with a letter to Viktor 
> when Ron says to Harry, "Are you that bad at kissing?"
> Harry answers "Dunno, maybe I am."
> Hermione says without thinking "Of course your not," is this truth 
> said unguardedly? 

Del replies :
I don't understand you. How could it be any kind of personal truth
concerning Harry ? If Hermione had already kissed Harry, I think we
would know. If she had only dreamed of kissing Harry as you pretend,
then it wouldn't be the truth : it would only be hopeful thinking.

However, it is a *general* truth : nobody is such a bad kisser as to
make someone else cry. Hermione has got a dorm-full of girls around
her every night, and I'm ready to bet that most of them (including
herself ?) have already been kissed and discuss that to no end quite
often. 

Udderpd wrote :
> "How do you know?" said Ron very sharply.
> Does this bring her to her senses because shortly after Hermione says
> two things both to Ron:
> "Ron, you are the most insensitive wart I have ever had the
> misfortune to meet." then less than half a page later. "Just because 
> you have the emotional range of a teaspoon doesn't mean we all have."

Del replies :
I happen to like Ron quite a lot (in case nobody had noticed :-), and
I felt *exactly* like Hermione. She just stated our common opinion in
a much more elaborate (and much funnier) way than I would have. The
comments Ron made were simply *appalling* !! Even if Ron had been her
official boy-friend, I'm dead certain Hermione would have scolded him
quite harshly for saying what he said.

Udderpd wrote :
> I has been suggested that these are terms of enderment from Hermione 
> to Ron, then I will ask what will she have to say to tell him I am 
> not interested in you romanticly.

Del replies :
State it clearly, any time he acts jealous ? "Ron, you're not my
boyfriend and you will never be, so stop acting like you own me or
something."
She *has* noticed Ron's jealousy, and she never has any problem
telling Ron what she thinks of him. So why should she be shy on that
subject ? It's Harry she doesn't know how to handle, not Ron. If she
wanted him off her back, she would take the appropriate measures, I
have no doubt about that. The fact that she endures his jealousy seems
to indicate that she doesn't mind it. The *only* thing she doesn't
tolerate is when Ron belittles Viktor, and that's quite normal :
Viktor is at least a very good friend, she'll defend him from anyone
just like she defends Harry. But other than that, she doesn't mind
Ron's jealousy. Maybe she even... enjoys it ;-) ?



Udderpd again

Hi Del Hermione is a bright girl I think that we can all agree on that, I would guess her IQ at 145 or so. I agree that she would have to tell Ron in words of one syllable what she thinks of him for it to get through his thick head and I believe that she would do this if she fancied him.  

She also knows that if she doesn't fancy him and she tells Ron exactly what she thinks of him, his self centered jealousy will blow the trio apart and she is not willing to do this. 

You intermate that she doesn't understand Harry, I believe that she does and she is willing to keep her feelings for Harry on the back burner until Harry is ready. And she probably knows that this wont be until after the death of Voldemort.

I would be the last person to deny that Ron has feelings for or fancied Hermione, but he must have she is one of his two best friends and he doesn' know any other girls. The only other females he interacts with socialy are his mother and sister and his sister he is trying to turn into a female version of himself, by forbiding her to talk socialy with boys. 

It would be very easy to argue that his childishness after the yule ball is him trying to treat Hermione the same way as he treats Ginny and she's not having any of it. She wont bring Harry into the arguement first it is not him being a prat and second it could only cause a rift and would not cure anything.

Let us not forget that Victor is Jealous of Harry not Ron Hermione talked constantly of Harry when she was with Victor.

Ron needs to chat socialy with a lot more girls and then he might learn about himself and (as much as any mere male can) about girls.

TTFN   Udder PenDragon






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