SHIP: Hermione's Reaction to... Was: Re:

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 106436

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Regina Olshan 
<rolshan2000 at y...> wrote:
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> I would still be interested to know whether it is the
> view of those who do not believe R/H have feelings for
> each other, that JKK does not know/care that this is
> being presented to the contrary in the movies?  I
> cannot believe that. 

Mike:

I believe even the most diehard H/Hr shippers (myself included) will 
admit that Ron fancies Hermione. However, it really doesn't appear 
as though Hermione feels this way back. (This from book canon 
anyways). The the PoA movie, Hermione has a few scenes where she 
grabs Ron's hand, hugs him and a few more things. Conversely, she 
does this to Harry a lot too. I noticed this the first time, and 
when I went to see it a second time, I realized the number of times 
she shows affection for Ron, she does an equal number of times for 
Harry. My reaction was "blast, way to still keep it hidden."

Regina:
> I think movies may be consistent with either R/H
> outcome or current R/H interest which ultimately
> changes for some reason to lead to a different outcome
> (H/H or other) but is not consistent and cannot be
> made consistent with the "no R/H interest" theory. 

Mike:

The movies may be consistent with R/H because they, like us, have no 
idea how the series is going to end. Once again, avid H/Hr shippers 
will realize that the Ron/Hermione bickering and his blatant 
affection towards Hermione is rather obvious. You can either make a 
movie with small subtle things that hint to H/Hr, or you can go with 
the obvious looking one. I myself however, still don't think the 
movies show anything either way at this point.

Regina: 
> I lean strongly toward ultimate R/H BECAUSE I do not
> believe romance will play a major part in remaining
> books. Doing an R/H reversal and H/H coming together
> would still be very possible, but would take a fair
> amount of space/plot to getting there. R/H would take
> nothing more than a brief moment of realization (could
> even be offstage).  The latter seems more consistent
> with the build-up and with the series focus.
> 
> Regina

Mike: 

H/Hr has more groundwork already layed than most people realize it 
seems. There have been lots of little things that take quite a bit 
of thought and many readings to see. You may think "I've heard that 
before", but it's true. I'd suggest you read the essays "Love 
Interrupted: A Theory" and "Love Foretold in Runes and in the 
Heavens" on www.symbolic-flight.org (Home of the ship HMS Harmony :))
to see why we really haven't realized the groundwork, and then one 
of the more symbolic things that I never realized until reading that 
essay.

Mike, who believes that the PoA movie made sure to hide the 
relationships