SHIP: Hermione's Reaction to... Was: Re:

[sienna291973]

No: HPFGUIDX 106513

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <submarimon15 at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Regina Olshan 
> <rolshan2000 at y...> wrote:
> <snip>
> > I would still be interested to know whether it is the
> > view of those who do not believe R/H have feelings for
> > each other, that JKK does not know/care that this is
> > being presented to the contrary in the movies?  I
> > cannot believe that. 
> 
> Mike:
> 
> I believe even the most diehard H/Hr shippers (myself included) 
will 
> admit that Ron fancies Hermione. However, it really doesn't appear 
> as though Hermione feels this way back. (This from book canon 
> anyways). The the PoA movie, Hermione has a few scenes where she 
> grabs Ron's hand, hugs him and a few more things. Conversely, she 
> does this to Harry a lot too. I noticed this the first time, and 
> when I went to see it a second time, I realized the number of times 
> she shows affection for Ron, she does an equal number of times for 
> Harry. My reaction was "blast, way to still keep it hidden."
> 
> Regina:
> > I think movies may be consistent with either R/H
> > outcome or current R/H interest which ultimately
> > changes for some reason to lead to a different outcome
> > (H/H or other) but is not consistent and cannot be
> > made consistent with the "no R/H interest" theory. 
> 
> Mike:
> 
> The movies may be consistent with R/H because they, like us, have 
no 
> idea how the series is going to end. Once again, avid H/Hr shippers 
> will realize that the Ron/Hermione bickering and his blatant 
> affection towards Hermione is rather obvious. You can either make a 
> movie with small subtle things that hint to H/Hr, or you can go 
with 
> the obvious looking one. I myself however, still don't think the 
> movies show anything either way at this point.

Now me:

Delurking here to quickly make a point that has been eating at me 
quite a bit. In the books, the standard line of thinking is that the 
bickering between Ron and Hermione indicates that there are unspoken 
and unacknowledged feelings that cause awkwardness between them. The 
wisdom behind this thinking says that the physical contact which 
Harry and Hermione readily engage in indicates strongly that they 
are ¡¥not¡¦ attracted to each other because if they were they would 
have a ¡¥problem¡¦ making physical contact with each other. 

Now we see the movies and there are, I believe, two entirely 
contradictory scenes presented ¡V in one, Ron reacts with 
embarrassment when Hermione simply touches his hand. Hermione also 
reacts to Ron¡¦s reaction and the two have an awkward moment. Later, 
they seem to demonstrate awkwardness even speaking with each other 
and we are meant to interpret this as feelings developing on BOTH 
their parts. Then we get the hug. Was I the only non R/Hr shipper 
asking ¡¥what the?¡¦. 

Are they awkward around each other or not? She can¡¦t touch his hand 
but he has no problem with a full body hug? And if a hug between Ron 
and Hermione can still be indicative of feelings on both their parts, 
why not the many instances of hugging, hand holding, touching, 
protecting between Harry and Hermione?

In my opinion, the complete confusion in the portrayal of R/Hr in the 
movies developed exactly ¡¥because¡¦ no real evidence of Hr „³ R exists 
in the books and something had to be created to represent it.

Sienna
A confused H/Hr shipper who'd like to point out that in canon 
the 'only' person Hermione turns to in moments of fear and upset for 
comfort and security is Harry.