Lily's sacrifice, was (James gave his life, why no protection from him?)
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Sun Jul 18 01:21:40 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 106713
<briggielockyer at y...> wrote:
> Saraquel suggested (106592)that the priori incantatem indicates
that the only spell from LVs wand killed Lily, scarred Harry and
rebounded on Voldemort. Which leaves the question as to how Harry
> got the scar, if not directly from the curse.
>
> Entropy throws in (paraphrased) Lily performed a charm to protect
> Harry sealed by her death which caused the scar. > > Dumbledore
may have recognized the eihwaz rune when he saw Harry's scar for the
first time, realizing the Ancient Magic behind it,
> and that is why he decided to leave Harry "marked". >
>
> Tina questions
> I came to understand that the scar was where Voldemort
> marked Harry (as his equal).
> >
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> Saraquel continues:
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> To take things further, what does it mean to say LV MARKED H as
his equal. It can be taken as a literal thing, as in his scar. But
it is also possible to interpret (this is a use of the word in
England and quite probably elsewhere I don't know) the meaning of
MARK to be 'to realise' as in 'Mark my words'. Now that's
something LV hasn't done yet. At the end of GoF he most definitely
sees Harry as his inferior. But tha's starting a whole new
discussion.....
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> Brigitte:
>
> I think you all have made some very valid arguments and points
about Lily doing a protection charm on Harry. However, I think that
Tina is correct in saying that LV did curse Harry to produce the
scar. LV tried to curse Harry and in doing so caused the lightning
bolt (as a symbol of Lily's protection) to scar Harry's forehead.
LV had to curse Harry directly to be able to transfer his some of
his powers, like parseltongue on to Harry and I think that his
powers were channeled into Harry by the lightning scar. Maybe part
of Lily's charm was to allow for the transferal of LV's power unto
Harry. As to Saraquel's observation that the prior incantatem
didn't produce a spell between Lily and Bertha, the only explanation
I can give is maybe it only shows spells that were completed
correctly. Since the spell backfired maybe the wand didn't register
it as a completed spell?
>
Valky:
Could I just add to some canon possibility that might clear up a few
of these problems.
In POA we are told that Sirius killed 12 muggles with one curse,
actually Peter, it seems.
So therefore, is it possible, that LV attempted to kill Lily and
Harry with the one curse. Leaving the action of the protection charm
and Lily's death in one bundle with the marking of Harry's forhead
and the rebound.
It might be worth considering even though I am aware this is not how
it is depicted in the PS movie version.
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