Lily's sacrifice, was (James gave his life, why no protection from him?)

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Sun Jul 18 01:21:40 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 106713

<briggielockyer at y...> wrote:
> Saraquel suggested (106592)that the priori incantatem indicates 
that the only spell from LVs wand killed Lily, scarred Harry and 
rebounded on Voldemort.  Which leaves the question as to how Harry
> got the scar, if not directly from the curse.
> 
> Entropy throws in (paraphrased) Lily performed a charm to protect 
> Harry sealed by her death which caused the scar. > > Dumbledore 
may have recognized the eihwaz rune when he saw Harry's scar for the 
first time, realizing the Ancient Magic behind it, 
> and that is why he decided to leave Harry "marked". > 
>  
> Tina questions 
> I came to understand that the scar was where Voldemort 
> marked Harry (as his equal). 
> > 
 
> 
> 
> Saraquel continues:
> 
> To take things further, what does it mean to say LV MARKED H as 
his equal.  It can be taken as a literal thing, as in his scar.  But 
it is also possible to interpret (this is a use of the word in 
England and quite probably elsewhere I don't know) the meaning of 
MARK to  be 'to realise' as in 'Mark my words'.  Now that's 
something LV hasn't done yet.  At the end of GoF he most definitely 
sees Harry as his inferior.  But tha's starting a whole new 
discussion.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Brigitte:  
> 
> I think you all have made some very valid arguments and points 
about Lily doing a protection charm on Harry.  However, I think that 
Tina is correct in saying that LV did curse Harry to produce the 
scar. LV tried to curse Harry and in doing so caused the lightning 
bolt (as a symbol of Lily's protection) to scar Harry's forehead.  
LV had to curse Harry directly to be able to transfer his some of 
his powers, like parseltongue on to Harry and I think that his 
powers were channeled into Harry by the lightning scar.  Maybe part 
of Lily's charm was to allow for the transferal of LV's power unto 
Harry.  As to Saraquel's observation that the prior incantatem 
didn't produce a spell between Lily and Bertha, the only explanation 
I can give is maybe it only shows spells that were completed 
correctly.  Since the spell backfired maybe the wand didn't register 
it as a completed spell?  
> 

Valky:
Could I just add to some canon possibility that might clear up a few 
of these problems.

In POA we are told that Sirius killed 12 muggles with one curse, 
actually Peter, it seems.

So therefore, is it possible, that LV attempted to kill Lily and 
Harry with the one curse. Leaving the action of the protection charm 
and Lily's death in one bundle with the marking of Harry's forhead 
and the rebound.
 
It might be worth considering even though I am aware this is not how 
it is depicted in the PS movie version.

  







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