TR "possessed" by Voldemort? (was Re: Dumbledore knows)

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No: HPFGUIDX 106992


 "snow" (me) previously wrote:
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 COS chap. The Heir of Slytherin pg. 313: "Voldemort," said Riddle
 softly, "is my past, present, and future, Harry Potter
" This
 statement, IMO, leads me to believe that Voldemort is a separate
 entity from Riddle. "Voldemort" said Riddle
" They are as one but 
 not one in the same. This entity, Voldemort, Dark Lord, Dark Wizard,
 Grindlewald, may be Salizar Slytherin who has possessed many over 
 his life span of the undead. 

 SS pg. 298 "He is still out there somewhere, perhaps looking for 
 another body to share
 not being truly alive, he cannot be killed
" 
 To vanquish just the shell of the person who has been possessed by
 this entity will not vanquish the entity itself. Quirrell was killed
 and yet the beast within lived on until it reappeared in another's 
 form. SS chap. The Man with Two Faces pg. 293 "See what I have 
become?   
 the face said. "Mere shadow and vapor
 I have form only when I can 
 share another's body
 but there have always been those willing to let
 me into their hearts and minds
" Those? Must have happened many times
 before.

David:

I've heard this theory before, that Riddle is some nice kid that was
was possessed by evil V-man. Help me out here, as I've seen no canon
for this.

Snow:
I never meant to imply that Tom Riddle was a good, sweet and innocent 
person. He may have been good at some point but there is no canon 
proofs either way. On the contrary, I feel he dabbled just a little 
too far in his quest for immortality and met up with this entity who 
promised the helping hand he was looking for. Possibly when Tom 
opened the chamber the first time he found more than just the 
basalisk. Why did Tom open the chamber and how did he know it existed 
to go in search of it?  In his search for immortality, in a library 
book, Hogwarts a History perhaps, he found information on his subject 
along with his ancestory, which led him to the chamber. The chamber 
may have held more than one secret. 


David:

V-man clearly states in CoS that he changed his name out of hatred
for his muggle father. He so resents his mother dying, his father
abandoning him, and the orphanage up-bringing that he throws off all
connection by changing his name. Changing his name to something all
will fear and respect...Voldemort.

He then dedicated his life to the study of the magic and the dark
arts for one purpose. Namely, to gain the respect, power, and
control he seems to desperately need.

Snow:

Everything appears to coincide with Tom's fifth year when the chamber 
was opened when he was sixteen in 1942, also when he changed his name 
in defiance of his muggle father. Tom was also sixteen when he 
preserved himself in a diary, which was in Dumbledore's opinion 
brilliant. COS. Chap. Dobby's Reward pg. 329 
Tom was resourceful and had determination also a certain disregard 
for the rules all the qualities that make a great Slytherin. But for 
Tom to foresee his possible demise at the age of sixteen to take 
precautions and preserve himself in a diary seems a bit too brilliant 
for me without some outside influence.  

David:

Again in GoF as he's 'reborn', he has no problem pointing out to
Harry the grave of his father. He doesn't speak in the third person,
as if the Tom Riddle life was someone else's. He speaks as if he's
deliberately thumbing his nose at his past.

Snow:
My only rebuttal to this would be that Voldemort was reborn with 
Harry's blood. Harry has a bit of Tom Riddle in him, which 
reconnected with the bit of Tom Riddle remaining in Voldemort. 
Voldemort appears to be astonished by his own sentiments at the 
graveyard. The Tom Riddle part of Voldemort has been awakened by the 
blood connection from Harry.